Lego Battleship preview glamorizes war crime (or maybe Bricker is overthinking it)

Wait, it’s Kre-O? That’s actually what they call themselves? It sounds like the kind of bad knock off you’d see on the Simpsons.

No one posting that “all rules are off when aliens are involved,” has addressed the practical side: the next human surrender attempt will be met with a different response, and humans will no longer have an option of surrendering.

We’ll simply explain that we had our fingers crossed that time, and this time we do not.

Exactly. However the message to the children in the audience is obvious - they’re just aliens. Plus, if you massacre them all who’ll ever know?

That’s only if the Kre-o earthlings are stupid enough to leave any witnesses.

OK, seriously, I saw this stupid short once and I was turned off. We should not encourage winning by cheating.

I recall some people kicking up a fuss that Obiwan does this exact same thing in the Clone Wars pilot “movie”(it was intended as a extra long first episode for the TV show but ended up getting released in theaters).

Obiwan starts surrender negotiations knowing that any moment Anakin will take out the shield, he stalls until the shield comes down then takes the commander he was negotiating with hostage.

The thing about faking a surrender not being a good tactic is that it assumes there will be a situation in which the option for surrender comes up again. If you’re reasonably sure it will not come up again, it’s as viable a tactic as any.

Yes, Lego(R) Bricks abide by all national, international, and interstellar laws, rules and guidelines, but not so cheap knock off bricks.
Brian

When I surrender, I will relinquish my sword HILT FIRST.

That makes me think of a Warhammer 40k-derived sig someone has on another forum:

*Xeno mortuus est, guadamas igitur *- The alien is dead, therefore we rejoice.

  1. Insufficient evidence.

Since this is a trailer, we don’t see all of the events which lead up to the case in question. It may be that the Aliens showed up and nuked all of the planets cities without warning or concern for civilian life. In the face of genocide, I think that conventional warfare and conventional rules go out the window.

  1. If we accept this as fiction, then we must abide by the rules of fiction. In those rules, if you are ugly and scary, it is perfectly acceptable to kill you with impunity without even ever examining your motives for entering into war.

  2. If we don’t accept this as fiction, then we must question the reliability of the source. Perhaps the film that we are watching is Alien propaganda? Can you prove to me that there was no digital manipulation of the film which was shown?

If the 2 options are

  1. Conquest of the earth by alien forces.
  2. Diminished human reputation in galaxy and possible problems when surrendering next time.

I’ll say option 1 is self evidently superior, if we posit that Earth is the only human inhabited planet.
After all, if we are conquered we will not be surrendering any more so option 2 does not matter.

That’s a good description. But then, they are a complete rip-off toy.

Well, given that the aliens in question were willing to accept a surrender, I would find this scenario unlikely.

We can make some inferences. If an alien threat had made some previous devastating attack, it would have at least been mentioned as a possible threat when discussing the sighted UFO.

As to (2), it may be acceptable to kill without examine motives – but even then, is it permissible to ambush by perfidy?

(3) The entire film appears to be digitally manipulated.

The aliens are willing to accept surrender because you can’t eat Terrans who have been disintegrated. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you are beautiful, by definition, what you do is good.

Those soldiers had an obligation to not only report an alien invasion of earth, but also to deliver alien weaponry capable of destroying them!

Those Lego knockoffs are true heroes.

If they’re like me, that’s because they’re assuming that this tactic was their only chance. If the choice is between a bad reputation and not existing, I’d go with the former every time.

Plus, you quoted the OP as having to do with law equaling morality, so obviously people are going to balk. The fact that it’s against law 58904 is completely and totally irrelevant to whether it is moral or not. I really wish you would fight your own ignorance about this.

you are not at the end of your trouble yet…

if you want to watch every film for it’s potential moral message BEFORE you give it to watch to your kid, you’ll be busy… I took the option “discuss it with the kid”
Make it clear when a film leads to conclusions you think are not right you can always insist it’s a film and still get the learning effect out of it that you want for your kid :slight_smile: