Lest We Forget

The soldier stood and faced his God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his boots were shining,
as brightly as his brass.

Step forward now, you soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To my church have you been true?

The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
“No Lord, I guess I ain’t.
Those who carry guns
Can’t always be a saint.”

“I’ve had to work a lot of Sundays.
At times my talk was tough.
Sometimes I’ve been violent.
The world is awfully rough.”

“But I never ignored a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God forgive me,
I’ve wept unmanly tears.”

“I don’t know if I deserve a place
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears.”

“If you have room for me, Lord,
It needn’t be too grand.
And if you don’t my Lord,
I’ll try to understand.”

There was a silence within the throne,
Where saints had often trod.
The soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.

“Step forward now, you soldier.
You’ve borne your burden well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven’s street.
You’ve done your time in Hell.”
Warmest Wishes to all of you ~ on this Remembrance Day, 2004.

In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Many thanks for too many no longer here.

I’m dissapointed at the number of twentysomethings and younger people who I’ve seen not wearing a poppy today. I think it’s the least that can be done to show some humility and respect for all those who fought for us. I think a lot of the younger people these days take an awful lot for granted and don’t realize the huge sacrifice that was made so we can have a free nation.

Ten million soldiers to the war have gone
who may never return again.
Ten million mother’s hearts
must break for the ones who died in vain
Head bowed down in sorrow in her lonely years,
I heard a mother murmer through her tears:

“I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier,
I brought him up to be my pride and joy.
Who dares to place a musket on his shoulder
to shoot some other mother’s darling boy?”

Let nations arbitrate their future troubles.
It’s time to lay the sword and gun away.
There’d be no war today if mothers all would say,
“I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier.”

What victory can cheer a mother’s heart
when she looks at her blighted home?
What victory can bring her back
all she cared to call her own?
Let each mother answer in the year to be,
“Remember that my boy belongs to me!”

“I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier,
I brought him up to be my pride and joy.
Who dares to place a musket on his shoulder
to shoot some other mother’s darling boy?”

Let nations arbitrate their future troubles.
It’s time to lay the sword and gun away.
There’d be no war today if mothers all would say,
“I didn’t raise my boy to be a soldier.”

(1915, Words by Lena Guilbert Ford, Music by Ivor Novello)

Here in the UK many shops observed a 2 minutes silence today at 11 am. The shop where I happened to be had a young couple with two toddlers who were very noisy . Their parents made no attempt to shush them up . Before this these two youngsters had been running round the store , screaming their heads off and the mum and dad made no attempt to control them. I would have thought they could have made some effort for those two minutes.

The old poem “The Unknown Soldier”, by Billy Rose, was written about WWI, but it is still relevant. The soldier speaking from the grave asks the listener, among other things.

*…Are my buddies taken care of
Was their victory so sweet
Is that big reward you promised
Selling pencils on the street?

I wonder if the profiteers
Have satisfied their greed?
I wonder if a soldier’s mother
Ever is in need?

I wonder if the kings who planned it all
Have satisfied their pride?
They played their game of checkers
And eleven million died"…*

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime…
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,–
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

–“Dulce Et Decorum Est”, Wilfred Owen

*The last sound I ever heard was an explosion
And bodies flew like apples thrown by boys at play
When I could see again, I was alone Jimmy wasn’t there
And a crater marked the hillside where he’d lain
And Billy Whitefish from Kenora wound up in a German trench
Where he captured their machine gun all alone
And held them off until his ammunition was all spent
And they swarmed around and they hacked him to the bone

Raise your flask, aim your rifles high
I’ve had a dream, I’ve seen we three should have no fear at all
You’ll die in Kenora, Billy; you, Jim, in Winnipeg
And I will end my days in Montreal

Now every day I still remember what I told them
My two friends who that day from this earth were torn
And the craters and the trenches where they died now bear the names
Of the cities and the towns where they were born.*

The above is from a song called “Vimy,” by a group named Tanglefoot. It’s one of the most haunting songs about war I’ve ever heard–perhaps because it’s done a cappella by a men’s chorus. Complete lyrics are posted on Tanglefoot’s site.

Later today, I’ll play that song and raise a glass for those who didn’t come home.

And i’ll raise one for all those who did.

*Himself it was who wrote
His rank, and quartered his own coat.
There is no king nor sovereign state
That can fix a hero’s rate;
Each to all is venerable,
Cap-a-pie invulnerable,
Until he write, where all eyes rest,
Slave or master on his breast.

I saw men go up and down
In the country and the town,
With this prayer upon their neck,
“Judgment and a judge we seek.”
Not to monarchs they repair,
Nor to learned jurist’s chair,
But they hurry to their peers,
To their kinsfolk and their dears,
Louder than with speech they pray,
What am I? companion; say.
And the friend not hesitates
To assign just place and mates,
Answers not in word or letter,
Yet is understood the better;—
Is to his friend a looking-glass,
Reflects his figure that doth pass.
Every wayfarer he meets
What himself declared, repeats;
What himself confessed, records;
Sentences him in his words,
The form is his own corporal form,
And his thought the penal worm.

Yet shine for ever virgin minds,
Loved by stars and purest winds,
Which, o’er passion throned sedate,
Have not hazarded their state,
Disconcert the searching spy,
Rendering to a curious eye
The durance of a granite ledge
To those who gaze from the sea’s edge.
It is there for benefit,
It is there for purging light,
There for purifying storms,
And its depths reflect all forms;
It cannot parley with the mean,
Pure by impure is not seen.
For there’s no sequestered grot,
Lone mountain tam, or isle forgot,
But justice journeying in the sphere
Daily stoops to harbor there.*
~Ralph Waldo Emerson

A toast to you, all my old comrades in arms, wherever you may be. I’ll remember you always.

Today, a war memorial in Dublin was spray painted with anti-British graffiti.

The people who desecrated that memorial do not realise that they are actually desecrating the memory of their countrymen who sacrificed themselves in the worst slaughter of soldiers in the history of humanity. Nobody can know the motivations of those from Ireland who fought and fell - whether for financial gain, pro-British sentiment, or because they genuinely thought they were fighting for freedom. It doesn’t matter though. They fell, and their memory should not be besmirched to make an antagonistic political point.

It’s still tricky to wear a poppy in Ireland, because of the political implications of those who fought for the British before Ireland was free. They don’t sell them openly here, and I haven’t got one. Regardless, I thank those of any nation who sacrificed themselves for my unborn self. I am wearing a poppy in my heart.

‘We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.’ - George Orwell

Let us, in our turn, honour those who stood ready.

Bah, hit sent too soon.

qts, whose grandmother tended the troops in WW1

Survivors

No doubt they’ll soon get well; the shock and strain
Have caused their stammering, disconnected talk.
Of course they’re ‘longing to go out again’, -
These boys with old, scared faces, learning to walk.
They’ll soon forget their haunted nights; their cowed
Subjection to the ghosts of friends who died, -
Their dreams that drip with murder; and they’ll be proud
Of glorious war that shatter’d their pride…
Men who went out to battle, grim and glad;
Children, with eyes that hate you, broken and mad.

– Siegfried Sassoon, 1917

For my grandfather, Hiram, Saddler Co. D.120th Engineers, World War One.

He survived the trenches, but spent the rest of his life reliving the horror of them, in a V.A. hospital ward.

R.I.P.

I can’t speak for my peers, but I am a young person who definitely appreciates the tremendous sacrifices and suffering that soldiers have endured for my sake. Those of you who know veterans, I hope that you have found a way to preserve their accounts of their experiences (those who are willing to talk about it, of course). I think it’s hard for young people to grasp what it’s truly about unless they’ve heard the firsthand accounts of the brutality of war from those who have lived it. War is so often made out to be a “game” in video games, TV, etc. that it’s easy to forget about what horrors real people have endured in war.

This is for all our soldiers of today, and for us, that we may show them the respect and gatitude they deserve, while they are here with us.

-trupa, son of a WWII Sicily & Italy vet, who did make it home, and, eventually, found hapiness, peace, and a family who cherished him.
Tommy
By Rudyard Kipling

I went into a public-‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.

Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, 'ow’s yer soul?”
But it’s “Thin red line of 'eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of 'eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.

You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of 'is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool – you bet that Tommy sees!

I saw this on the Pacific War Memorial at Corregidor (Philippines). It was short but it really moved me. I have a picture of myself standing next to it.

I don’t know how long I was there just staring at it.

From the memorial erected by the Turkish Gov’t at Gallipoli:

“Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives…you are now lying of the soil of a friendly country, therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours…You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.”
-Kemal Ataturk

Total casualties of the Gallipoli Campaign

Approximate allied casualties . . . 250,000 (incl. French forces)
Approximate allied deaths . . . 50,000
Turkish casualties . . . over 300,000

The suffering of the wounded was terrible and the facilities for dealing with them were hopelessly inadequate. Death came in horrible ways. Men were killed in action, sniped or shelled. Some died of wounds, dysentery or disease, others were drowned or died of exposure. Men were both burned and frozen to death.

Very nice sentiments expressed here.
Thanks you meek for starting the thread.

My poppy fell off this morning somewhere on the way to school. I’ve been wearing a poppy for two weeks, and it falls off today.

At 11am, I was in the library, and I was happy to see them dim the lights in recognition of the moment of silence (considering a library is already silent). I stood and said a silent prayer of thanks. Only a few other students did the same, but most stopped working for a minute or two.

I spoke to several of the poppy-selling veterans this year, and they are wonderful people who love their country. I shook their hands and thanked them.

To anyone who has fought for freedom, for human rights, and for justice; to those whose loved ones gave their lives so that we could live free from evil:

Thank you

Yeah, us youngin’s are the only ones in the civilized world who aren’t wearing poppies today. Damn kids.

I didn’t wear one today, but I did make a donation to the Disabled American Veterans. Relatively small, but the absolute most I could afford. I also wrote a letter to the editor of a local paper, expressing my views on some of the political going-ons (which, if I’m not mistaken, is one of the fundamental rights in this country).

But I’m young and didn’t wear a flower today, so I guess I have no appreciation for the sacrifices that soldiers have made in the past. May I point out that the vast majority of soldiers who’ve died in the line of duty have been very young - ‘twentysomethings’ at the most?