Well, here’s the thing.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/00030651211008507
A paper? Yes we are lucky to live in the USA where there is academic freedom. I hope it doesn’t change.
There is no way to cite this but you need to. You apply “accurate” “not true” and “that’s all” and “thats what they do” like a little kid shaking salt. Liberally you might say.
The problem is any tough issue will not be acceptable for discussion with so many projected defensive barbs in it.
He’s not here for a conversation.
Yes, a paper. An obscure academic article, one might say, upon bringing it up for that specific reason.
Neither Liberals or Democrats want anyone raped, especially children. Seriously fuck you for even saying that. Get help you lunatic.
But this is not a political issue and it’s ridiculous to try and make it one. The girl was assaulted by someone she knew and had an assignation with. This does not make the actual fact of the assault any less appalling, but it means that there were no security issues involved.
Let’s say my next door neighbor was murdered by her husband. That would be appalling, but it’s not indicative of any security issue in the neighborhood and if an alarm salesmen tried to convince me my neighborhood was unsafe because my neighbor was brutally murdered, I’d laugh at him. Not because I think brutal murder is funny, but because the idea that a burglar alarm system would keep someone safe from being attacked by another resident of the house is ridiculous.
In free societies we need a vigorous debate in academia. Whatever stands the test of time informs the way the curricula is designed later on, by that scholarship. If that paper stands (proves true, and inspires further research and scholarship) then I have no problem with it.
What about this stuff is so hard to deal with for kids? Kids have to take a lot in. It wont help to be in denial or have their parents helicoptering reality for them.
The fact that Loudoun County is incapable of preventing rape from going on in the school bathrooms during school hours is, in fact, a security issue.
OK…? If we’re playing analogies here, let’s say after your neighbor’s husband was reported to the police for murdering her, he was not arrested and was instead placed in another house where he almost immediately murdered another woman. Your neighbor’s father showed up to a town hall with the police and asked why his son-in-law wasn’t being prosecuted, and was told he was a bigot and a terrorist for asking, and he was placed under arrest. The police chief insisted that no murder had taken place in the town that year, and he’s not completely sure what a “house” or a “wife” are, despite previously sending an e-mail showing he was familiar with the details of the case. National operatives of one of the country’s two major political parties went on TV and accused your neighbor’s father of secretly running a campaign against allowing husbands with certain gender characteristics to access houses, and repeatedly mocked the idea that a person could actually just be upset about his daughter being murdered. As part of a general wave of discontent with how the local government has been handling issues related to houses, including but not limited to people being murdered in them, a subsequent election votes the government out in favor of the opposition party, only for the voters to be told that they didn’t actually vote for the reasons they said they did and were just being white supremacists.
Since that’s a much fuller picture of what happened in the rape case, are you starting to see the problem?
Go fuck yourself with something rusty, troll boy.
Maybe I should visit a bathroom in a Democratic-controlled county and just wait five minutes for someone to do it for me.
Larry Craig will be along shortly to accommodate your desires. Be patient.
OK then.
My suggestion is that the Democratic Party stop going full speed ahead on “kids being raped at school is no big deal, the school has no responsibility to prevent it, and you’re a bigot for caring about it.” Don’t do it for me, do it for you. I promise you that not getting behind this message will bring benefits at the polls next time around.
My suggestion is you go fuck yourself. Or ask Matt Gaetz if he knows anything about statutory rape. Or check with the former Miss Teen USA contestants that Trump creeped on and watched undressing. Fucking loser.
I don’t know. Maybe nothing. I don’t care if kids are taught radical things.
It seems the existence of a single paper saying it has changed your opinion from “this is an unserious projection by fascists” to you asking that question, though. Which seems like it supports my overall perspective that some liberals have a hard time articulating where they stand on these things.
I haven’t changed my opinion that this is an unserious projection by fascists.
It’s possible to be massively historically inaccurate just by leaving things out.
What I got taught in school back in the 50’s and 60’s, in New York State and in Maine, was basically ‘slavery was bad but we fought a war, over both slavery and states’ rights issues, and slavery was awful but now it’s All Over A Long Time Ago and everything is Fine.’
I was never told that some of the Founding Fathers were slaveholders. I had the impression that George Washington grew up on a farm where his family and maybe a hired hand or two did all of the work.
I was told nothing about Jim Crow and had no idea that there were segregated drinking fountains one state south of me while I was a child. I was taught nothing about lynchings or massacres post-Civil War. I was taught nothing about deed restrictions.
I was taught that the area that became the USA was very lightly populated when Europeans arrived and that settlers mostly occupied land the Indians weren’t using, and that settlers fought back when attacked by Indians. I was taught nothing about massive deaths from disease, and nothing about different patterns of land use and ownership. I think this was probably not deliberate on the part of my teachers; I don’t think they’d ever learned any better themselves.
I was taught nothing about prejudice against Italians, Jews, or much of anybody else. History classes, every year, got up to the end of WWI and then ran out of time in the year; we did not discuss WWII, any runup to it, or any results of it in 1950’s or 1960’s society.
I was taught that women got the vote in 1920 and since then of course we were entirely equal. The sex-segregated job market wasn’t even mentioned; it was taken for granted. That was just normal. So was every other example of gender discrimination that was ongoing and/or occured since 1920.
I was taught that the USA was a peaceful and non-warlike country that only invaded other countries when ourselves directly endangered by them. I think the beginning of my realizations of how poorly I’d been taught was reading in the news, somewhere around when I was in my 20’s or so, that South American nations were worried about being invaded by the USA. My immediate reaction was, why are they going on about that? The USA doesn’t go around invading other American nations! – then I went and looked it up. Whoops.
– I was also taught, while we’re at it, that Columbus was a hero and a visionary who realized the world was round while everybody else in his society thought it was flat and told him his ships would sail off the edge of the earth. And that he brought back gold to Europe; but not that he brought back slaves.
And all of that was in the Northeast. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was a lot worse in the states that were in the Confederacy.
WTF?!
Kindly cite any “Democratic Party hack” insisting that most parents want their children raped, want to be lied to about it, and do want to be arrested solely for asking questions about it.
My suggestion is that you stop beating your wife.
Let’s not forget that Trump bragged about countless instances of sexual assault and the GOP and so-called Christians said “Our kind of man”.
OK. I don’t understand what you’re saying then.
One thing Donald Trump and Matt Gaetz have in common with the “rape? what rape?” McAuliffe Democrats is that they didn’t win any elections in Virginia this year either.
So Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, the NYT, this message board, etc did NOT spend the last 5 months insisting that it was impossible that Scott Smith actually had a problem with his daughter’s rape and was just pretending he did in order to advance a nonexistent “trans bathroom crusade?”