Fla. House OKs Bill to Keep Schiavo Alive
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She’s a vegetable! She has no thoughts, she is merely a shell of a person with nothing underneath. If Florida cares so much about human life why don’t they abolish the death penalty? At least murderers are aware of their own existance, unlike Terri Shiavo.
I liked this rant better the first time I read it, here.
Exactly. And the title sucks by the way. It’s really not so much a matter of “letting her die” as it is a matter of killing her via starvation.
[QUOTE=JohnBckWLDIt’s really not so much a matter of “letting her die” as it is a matter of killing her via starvation.[/QUOTE]
As she would ages ago have if she wasn’t put on the feeding tube that’s supposed to be removed, hence “let.”
I agree. Noone should have to live like that. She herself did not want to. Let her die with some dignity.
What’s horrible is that the gov’t is butting in where it has no business. First off, this is not a multi-jurisdictional matter. This needs to be handled by the state of Florida, not the feds. Secondly, any law they pass will be knocked down as unconstitutional, as Gov. Jeb’s first attempt was.
This poor woman died 15 years ago. Can we please let her body go join her soul?
Some interesting insight from our own DoctorJ can be found here.
Yep. And I’ve gotta wonder: why starve her to death? Everyone’s in such a hurry to finish her off (especially that POS husband of hers), a bullet would be much quicker and provide the same result.
[Doctor J explained this elsewhere.] Removing a feeding tube is passive, while shooting someone in teh head goes against the “do no harm” thing. Don’t ask me how shooting someone violates that rule, but it does. :rolleyes:
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This poor woman died 15 years ago. Can we please let her body go join her soul?
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Um … either you are saying:
Now, Im fairly sure that when you die, your body stays here on Earth. There is a story about one guy who worked a way around this - but he had powerful connections, from what I’ve heard.
How can removing a feeding tube be “passive” when it takes action to do it, and how is removing it in line with “do no harm” yet shooting someone isn’t? They both result in the same thing, right?
If a mother starved her child to death, would we give her a lesser sentence because she committed murder in a passive way?
Ask a Doctor. It’s passive because she’s being kept alive artificially by the tube.
No, but given the enormous differences in the details you probably realize this is a fucking stupid comparison.
The parents doctors should have had an opportunity to try and revive her. The fair thing to do would be, give a reasonable time for some results, say, a month or two. If she got better, great, the best possible outcome. If the doctors achieved nothing, then at least they tried and now any shred of doubt as to her true mental state is removed and her body can be allowed to die since we’d then know for sure that her brain was dead. If there wasn’t complete progress, but there was some progress that looked promising, then the doctors could have their time extended to see if any further progress could be made or not. That would have been the fair thing.
There was no harm in letting the doctors for the parents try. If they tried and succeeded, then she wouldn’t be living like a vegetable. If they tried and failed, then she could die and wouldn’t have to live as a vegetable. If it were my wife, I’d at least try. I mean, making a comparison, to sentence a person to death, the jury has to be sure of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It seems here that there is a reasonable doubt that Schiavo is beyond the point of no return. But, it looks like tomorrow is the end, and this debate, at least this specific debate, will be moot.
Oops, maybe it won’t be over tomorrow. I just saw about the congressional bill. Sorry.
Doesn’t seem like doctors agree about that. If you check the thread I linked to, it’s noted that none of the doctors who support the parents have actually been in contact with Terri, or even seen her beyond footage edited by her parents. The fact that something is disputed doesn’t mean there’s real doubt.
The tube has been removed before and put back in later, so this probably won’t go away until she dies.
Well I still don’t see the harm in letting doctors who support the parents have a wack at Terri. Again, it seems that this would be the best way to remove all doubt.
Letting the parents have a wack…
Sorry, I’m thrown back to a Kill Bill scene for some reason.
For all the money they’ve spent on lawyers, the parents could’ve just bribed the son-in-law to give up his next-of-kin status.
Bryan,
Michael Schiavo has been offered a total of 11 million dollars total (1 million/10 million) to walk away. He hasn’t done it. His reasoning as he reiterated on a recent news report was due to a statement by Terri’s parents, documented in court records, that if need be they would amputate all of her limbs and place her on a vent just to keep her alive.
At this point, it wouldn’t matter if Michael chose to walk away. The decision to remove the nutrition tube was made by the courts. He has no control whatsoever about what happens now.
regards,
widdley
The husband has been offered up to $1,000,000 to give up his custodial rights over to her parents and has refused. The husband has stated that it is not about the money. This is about fulfilling his wife’s request of not living like a vegetable.
Her brain has so deteriorated over the years that she no longer feels hunger, or thirst, or pain. She wouldn’t be able to feel it, so it would simply be letting nature take its course.