Let's cheer the right-wing smear machine!

And to what do you attribute this astounding spinlet? Surely it couldn’t be because active duty troops would find it deleterious to their careers to be forthcoming about their true feelings about their Commander-in-Chief? Where are the polls from veterans, who can safely express themselves without risking the rath of the Pentagon?

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Naw, any dittohead can make claims on a message board then refuse to back them up.

Oh, please. What, you think the survey was done while their officers watched? You don’t think the pollsters might have taken that into account? And since the officers questioned were also supportive of Bush, doesn’t that undercut your argument?

In any event, it should be obvious to everyone that Bush is wildly popular among active-duty military. He gets wild cheers whenever he’s with them. I’d guess that he’s more popular within the military than any President since Reagan.

If you need another data point to support this, how about the 2004 election?

Military supports Bush 4-1 over Kerry

Those were people actively serving in the military at the time of the election. By a ratio of 4-1 they picked the guy who sent the military into war over the other guy.

From the cite:

OK, so it was asked of active duty military who may or may not have served in Iraq at any point in time, and if they were not available, it was asked of family members who were definitely never in Iraq.

I hear ya! I’m still chuckling over the mindless libs who were positive that Karl Rove was behind the forged CBS National Guard documents. They didn’t know how, exactly…but they knew it had to be Rove’s fault!

Yes, except that the family member’s answers were broken out from active duty personnel.

It seems to me this wasn’t the case at his last televised speech, made at Fort Bragg. He didn’t get wild cheers when he was with them then. He got polite applause, apparently prompted by his own staff.

Your second citation, the survey conducted and published by Army Times, is unscientific and specifically states that its sample underrepresents enlisted men:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-383722.php

I don’t find the results of that poll especially surprising or informative, considering the nature of the sample.

Scylla, this is “the courage of our convictions”

17 Spanish troops die in air crash

They died in the service of a just cause, one that Spain, along with most of the rest of the world, believes in – although I wish your nation hadn’t strayed so far off-course. Perhaps then Afghanistan would be in better shape than it is.

Not to worry though, for as much or as little as our presence there might mean to you, those brave men didn’t die in vain.

We won’t be leaving anytime soon.

R.I.P.

light strand,

Thank you. I’m glad to say he gives me all sorts of reasons to be proud.

As for your Galician friend, it is indeed a small world. For while I never made out to Vigo, I visited other Galician cities often as my parents hail from the next province over, Asturias, where they kept a small summer cottage – not far from Oviedo, the capital – in my youth.

Not a good day for Galicia though, as twelve of the seventeen dead soldiers were based in Pontevedra.

Take care.

When you’re done chuckling, maybe you’ll see fit to back up claims you’ve made.

Like…?

You must be joking.

That last one is very subtle, so read slowly: it isn’t a direct claim, but the claim that the man’s son’s memory is being exploited is being made through implication. Get it? Im-pli-ca-tion.

The Tooth steps up the plate…here’s the pitch…swung on and missed!

  1. You know, that’s another reason I tend to believe Michael Moore is behind this stunt.

2)I suspect that some wacko Bush-hating group suggested the idea to her and has been supporting her financially all along.

  1. **Is it possible ** that Casey’s father doesn’t believe his son’s memory should be exploited by someone like Michael Moore?

Nothing even close to a “claim” made in those statements. Care to try again?

Admit it, Stephe96, the only reason for your Michael Moore fixation is because that idea got tooted by Rush Limbaugh last week…

Not really. I tend to believe rational discussion is beyond the capabilities of some people, and I suspect you’re one of them. You just go on pretending your failure to back up your statements constitutes a swing and a miss on my part if it lets you believe the things you say make sense.

Personally, I think a cat wandering across a keyboard could come up with a more cogent statement than “I suspect some wacko Bush-hating group suggested the idea to her and has been supporting her financially all along, but I’m not claiming this is so”, so you and your conspiracy theories will just have to get along without me.

Uh huh. Sure.

what’s the deal lately w/ the lame ass responses??? 10 year olds could do better.

I suspect that GW is a Stepford robot, totally controlled by Laura and her coven of lesbian Satanists. I mean, is there any actual proof that “Karl” Rove is a man? What with his Pillsbury Deathboy figure and soft, waxy features?

Mind you, I’m not claiming this…

I was thinking yesterday that Stephe96’s style of argument is very reminiscent of my little sister’s (I have six, pick one) when we were kids. He/She never argues any point for longer than two posts, the points he/she does attempt to make are weasly insinuations issued with plausible deniability, his/her rebuttal style is basically “na, na, I can’t hear you!”, and any evidence shown is completely ignored. Of course, my little sisters have a brain (actually, a number of brains - one each, except maybe… no, we won’t go there), so they grew out of it.