And I am not asking you to do any such thing. According to your statements I evidently misunderstood your meaning. I have asked you to help me understand what you meant. Will you?
Of course, and my apologies if I seemed surly.
I have merely noted the absence of network achormen forging documents that implicate liberal political figures in illegal and unethical activities.
Perhaps you wonder if conversely I am suggesting that they have done so for conservative political figures. I am not. I am however attempting to be evocative of Dan Rather’s vouching for the authenticity of forged documents implicating a conservative political figure.
You may find fault or issue with the fact that the converse of my statement is not accurate, but if you were to do so, I would think you were being petty and engaging in unnecessary deconstruction as such accuracy is not required in this context in the implied converse. It merely has to be evocative. To this purpose I feel the statement suffices and stand behind it.
Better?
Then is there anything that might give anyone a morally superior position in this instance? Are we to grant this position to solely the Commander-in-Chief? Scary… <shudder>
Sure. I did wonder what the point was of making such a statement if the converse wasn’t expected to be true. You’re saying the point was to be evocative of the Dan Rather incident without pointing to it directly. I suspected as much.
You’re correct, " such accuracy is not required in this context in the implied converse." I’m sure you knew how people would take it. That tells me enough.
What does it tell you?
I think the point is that Mrs Sheehan’s understandable grief and anger do not automatically give more wieght to her opinions or make her morally superior in any way.
I’m sure some parents who lost children in WWII thought FDR was a lying scumbag asshole who sent their child to die in a European war that was none of our buisness.
Does history indicate they were correct?
Don’t misunderstand me. I think GWB is a lying scumbag asshole without an ounce of morality, but, the fact that Casey Sheehan was killed in Iraq doesn’t make Cindy Sheehan an more {or less} correct. It does give her a platform and I’m glad she’s useing it.
Oh,…I think you know.
Please provide a cite of an instance where a network anchorman forged any documents. A network anchorman who did the forging, as you have accused here. That will give you another post in which you can avoid talking about the bullshit that got us into an untenable war that the Sheehan protest is designed to call attention to.
By the way, while we’re on the subject of forging, who do you think forged the Niger uranium documents?
She DOES have the moral high ground. She wrote a check with her son’s life, which the US government has cashed. Her sacrifice is incredibly greater than anyone else debating the issue, including Dubya, who just sent a bunch of poor kids to get killed cause it made him feel more like a man. While we are under no obligation to agree with Ms. Sheehan, we are obliged to listen respectfully to what she has to say, and to give her words greater weight than, say, some online potzer who’s got nothing better to do than make derogatory comments about the mothers of dead soldiers.
Ronald Griffin is also debating this issue. His sacrifice is at least as great as Cindy Sheehan’s, as he also lost a son in Iraq.
How would you judge his moral high ground?
So?
A guy disagrees with a Senator who made a half-assed broad generalization. I thought it was okay as long as nobody put the word “official” in there anywhere.
Unless you’re saying that “A cancels B therefore B should shut up”. In which case I guess the only way to find out which side is right is to find the mothers of 1800+ dead servicemen/women and ask them how they feel.
I’ll buy you the phone card if you make the calls.
-Joe
I would say that I am obligated to listen respectfully to his words, though not to agree with him, and also I am obligated not to make personal attacks against him.
For example, I am obligated not to call him a hysterical right wing nut job being led astray by Bushco in his crazed grief. I will not do that, for that would be wrong. Even if that were my honest opinion, it would be wrong to belittle him so after what he’s been through.
Would that everyone understood this.
Well put. I agree.
Better read what you quoted again. It says “abscence of”
Please provide a cite showing that I have made that specific accusation, and I will either gladly support it or retract it.
Oh you lying sack of shit. I have not avoided any topic. In fact, I’ll bet I’ve spent far more time on these boards talking specifically about the Iraq war than you have.
First, you prove yourself to be totally stupid that you can’t even comprehend basic sentences, and ask me for a cite for something I didn’t say, now you accuse me of avoiding a topic that I’ve been active upon at length. It’s doubly stupid because this thread is not about the Iraq war, it is about the “Right wing smear machine.”
Perhaps if we were posting in a thread about the Iraq war you might have a point. Seeing as we’re not you just a moron. You wouldn’t happen to be from spain, would you.
Col. Mustard in the library with a candlestick, you brainless twit.
I’d say more “Byzantine” than “Better.”
Winding sheets, dead guys and bathroom humor:
I’ll bet they all piled into the local diner for a soup and sandwich lunch after the big demo.
Scylla, you macho-man you, ever think of putting all that pent-up Internet anger to good use? Because if you haven’t, I’ve got just the ticket for you:
Yeah, I know, I really shouldn’t be so nice with total strangers, but what the hey, not like I’ll be the one losing a limb or two over it. So no need to thanks me. Really.
But you’re welcomed anyway.
BTW, is your needle stuck on “Spain”? Sure seems that way. Careful now, don’t want to wear-out your ace in the asshole.
I liked this editorial cartoon. Pot, meet kettle.
That site shows that the Army is looking for medical corpsmen. Why aren’t you signing up to do this important work?
You know, since you seem to be so concerned about the safety and well-being of the troops, here’s an excellent way for you to demonstrate this.