I asked you first.
How should I know what you are. Shouldn’t you know yourself better than anyone?
I’m rubber, you’re glue.
Why am I glue? Shouldn’t I know what I am better than you do?
Quit hitting yourself.
What would Jesus say to that, Qin? :dubious: He believed in protecting the innocent, yes. But he also condemned the whole “eye for an eye” method of punishment.
I do not believe Christ would support torture for its own sake. But at the same He also believed in justice and protecting innocents.
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I cannot quarrel with the precise words you say. But from my reading Jesus seemed far more interested in preaching love and forgiveness, mercy rather than strict justice, and to the extent possible non-judgmentalism. (God is Judge of your fellow man; you’re not. So don’t – and if you must, judge as He would.)
Now, a question for you: Jesus twice, both times in Matthew’s Gospel, equates something to “the Law and the Prophets,” which is idiomatic for the whole of Jewish Scripture. One consists of two Old Testament commandments grouped together, and is found in chapter 22. The other is in chapter 7, and should be very familiar. What is it?
Is this the one about not coveting your neighbor’s maidservant’s ass?
So now you’re stuck to a rubbery conservative.
Right, so we’re not talking about training torturers, just hardening people sufficiently that they can leave someone to die. That is different.
However, I don’t see why we need to do it. Why do we need to be cruel to those who are cruel? Why is this better?
You’re not a Christian?