Let's review the meaning of Ad Hominem again, shall we?

Yes, it’s fun to say. Yes, it’s all full of Latiny goodness. But could we all please start using it correctly? It seems every time someone gets insulted, they start in with the ad hominem this and the ad hominem that.

Just so we’re all clear:

-From The Nizkor Project (bolding mine-Dante)

Study Guide:

Premise: Dante and PosterX are having a heated debate over cocktail weenies. Should you buy the plain ones, or the ones that come in ketchup? Things are getting tense.

Which one of these statements by Dante is an ad hominem attack?

  1. You are a nincompoop.
  2. You are a nincompoop for liking cocktail weenies in ketchup.
  3. Because you are nincompoop, cocktail weenies in ketchup are inferior.

If you chose #3, give yourself a pat on the back! The rest of you, stay after class.

So in the future kids, if you get called a donkey-raping sphincter-felcher, that’s just a plain old insult, or vituperium, if you need something latinish to throw around.

Next week - Strawman: Not The Same Thing As Exaggerating For Effect

Yeah, well, so’s your old man.

Funny, I was doing a lesson on this just last week:

Me: An example of an ad hominem attack would be to say, “Andrea Dworkin thinks that porn should be illegal. She just thinks that because she’s fat and ugly.” :: notices raised hand :: Yes?

Student: Well, IS she fat and ugly?

Me: . . .

Not to hijack too much but being fat and ugly could result in a personal dislike of porn.

While we are at it, can I just add that the misuse use of the phrase, “That begs the question …” around here is starting to get on my nerves.

Isn’t that just like a lawyer?

Regards,
Shodan

The implication of “you’re a nincompoop” during a debate about ketchup weenies is “I reject your arguments, based on the fact that you’re a nincompoop”. I’d say that 1 and 3 are both Ad Hominem fallacies.

I know, which is why I wasn’t quite sure how to respond to the student’s comment. :wink:

You can’t win an argument or debate by implication, so I can’t see it as a valid rebuttal. I guess if you had one post ending with “…so what does that tell you?” and the next poster responding with “That tells me you poop nincoms”, you could make a case that it’s ad hominem.

googles Andrea Dworkin

Oh dear.

Yes, I think I see where you aren’t going with that.