liberals believe this. Liberals want that. Quoth the liberals. You got me all convinced now
The notion that by saying something, or wanting something, or believing something you actually change reality around you is an example of magical thinking. Or, shall we say, in this case, liberal thinking.
The point is, the reality out there is different from what you and your other liberal friends may believe and want. And for the people who are bled dry with taxes and whose businesses are destroyed by liberal policies it matters not one iota what it is that you believe and want. What matters is, what actually happens.
The medieval doctors may have believed that bloodletting is good for health and wanted to cure their patients, but the reality of their actions was hastening their demise. Just like the liberals are hastening the demise of America even as we speak.
Neither of them are liberal. Both are at best moderate right wingers and pretty generic corporatists.
Please; he’s not some champion of either of those things. He’s had to be pressured into any kind of support; personally I think he’s at least moderately homophobic.
Say what? Conservatives as a whole love war. They just love the chance to bomb brown people or people who follow the wrong religion or the wrong politics or who have something they think we can steal.
My, what a great example of psychological projection. It’s conservatives not liberals who think they can simply declare reality to be what they want it to be; who think that belief, faith and sheer determination can force the world to be what they want to be. “We make our own reality” is a conservative line. Case in point:
We have historically low taxes, essentially no “liberal policies”, and as a whole the economy has historically done worse under conservatives. You are trying to blame things that are simply not real.
There aren’t a significant number of liberals in this country and they don’t have the power to do much of anything. And the most powerful group right now working to destroy America in order to save it are the conservatives. The recent case of them taking the economy hostage over politics being an example.
Among the many misconceptions you have, you seem to be unable to tell the difference between my saying what liberals believe and my saying what I believe.
I’ve been watching conservatives all my life push for war, cheer for war. If they don’t like war they’ve certainly done an excellent job of pretending otherwise.
Please; he’s not some champion of either of those things. He’s had to be pressured into any kind of support; personally I think he’s at least moderately homophobic.
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He considers abortion pretty much a settle issue and as a smart social liberal knows that the best way to legalize gay marriage is a state by state battle. Congress is not going to approve a constitutional amendment either way on gay marriage.
He wasn’t a liberal, but he was closer than what passes for conservative these days. As said, he acknowledged that workers actually contribute to the economy and famously made a point of paying them enough to buy his own products. By modern Republican standards that would make him a flaming liberal. Of course, the majority of humanity are flaming liberals by the standards of the Republicans; they are narrow fringe extremists.
He is not a social liberal. This is a man who invited an anti-homosexual preacher to make a speech at his inauguration; you might a well claim that a President who invited a KKK lead to make a speech at his inauguration wasn’t racist. Obama has spent much of his Administration repeatedly slapping the homosexual community in the face.
Such a cogent argument; surely I will be forced to reject a lifetime of observation in favor of it.
He was also a propnent of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
Rick Warren is a theological liberal, he does have moral qualms about homosexuality though. And I wouldn’t call a man who has overturned DADT and passed anti-hate crime legislation against homosexuals someone who “slaps” homosexuals “in the face”.
Plenty of Republicans have opposed wars-look at Ron Paul for example.
My impression is that those who have achieved wealth early in life and with little effort, and those who are born rich and who stay that way with little effort tend to be liberal. They are certainly unlikely to resent welfare recipients, harbor allusions about welfare Cadillacs, and so on. Generosity comes easily to these people. Some of these people may work long hours when they are young, but they love their work, and they are confident they will succeed.
Those who have had to struggle to get where they are, and those who have struggled without getting very far are more likely to be conservatives. Their struggle for survival kills pity for those beneath them economically. They are likely to overestimate the amount of taxes they pay, and to overestimate the amount the government spends on programs they dislike, such as anti poverty programs.
An exception could be those with high goals that they realize they are unlikely to reach. These do respond to the politics of envy. More of these exist in the imaginations of insecure conservatives than in real life, however.
