Well, you restricted it to Dem lies targeted at Republicans. If you just did lies in general (e.g. lying about how a given policy would work out) then you’d get a lot more.
Right, Republicans were not successful in delaying funding for the troops because they did not prevail in the procedural votes. But that is how all but three Republicans voted: to indefinitely delay the vote to approve money for the troops.
C’mon…I think that is obvious hyperbole and instantly recognizable as such. If Grayson said (as an example), “Republicans will be telling you the sun rises in the West” would you for an instant call him a liar or immediately recognize it for the rhetoric it is?
If you can plausibly say someone out there, who is not actually brain dead, thought for a second that Republicans actually wrote a health plan to be submitted to Congress that amounted to “just die” then you can call Grayson a liar on this.
To my mind it is so patently over-the-top and immediately recognizable as untrue calling him a liar goes too far for that.
I personally accept the quote as a lie. However improbable McCain’s proposal was no one has offered evidence it was impossible. He did not say he was going to cut benefits.
it remains on the list as ‘being debated’ simply because people are still defending it as true.
Honestly I wanted to limit the topic to lies I could easily follow. When you start getting into policy lies they often get more complicated then my meager mind can comprehend.
Which makes the list utterly useless because it has nothing to do with factual accuracy, just the complete unwillingness of certain people to abandon an unreasonable position.
You know what they say. You can please some of the people some of the time, but can you just please pass the pie?
How would you recommend we establish factual accuracy. Should one person get to make that determination.
I don’t think he wanted 100 years of peace, either. He was all for the occupation of Iraq so long as there were no American casualties. His concern for the people he wanted to occupy was conspicuous in its absence. He didn’t say he wanted 100 years of war, true, but I think he’d be okay with 100 years of uncontested conquest.
Just like South Korea and Japan, right?
No, nothing like Japan and Korea. Neither country was invaded under false pretenses so their resources could be plundered by those who contribute to McCain’s political party. I don’t understand why Japan and Korea are even brought up.
I’m not aware of any waffling or double-standards, but I suppose it’s good enough to count – or maybe crazy shouldn’t count. I don’t know. Is “death panels” a lie or just crazy?
By the way, you still haven’t said what prominent Democrat accused Sarah Palin of banning books or of saying “I can see Russia from my House.” You specifically called the latter statement a “lie.” Who told it?
I’d go with C) Hyperbole.
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Hyperbole? Palin? Doubt she knows what the word means. Anyway, Palin is clearly trying to portray the “Death Panels” as real.
It’s nice to know that some things never change.
Then there are instances like this thread.
That she is trying to portray them as real does not equate to her actual belief that they are real. Were her lips moving when she made the above statements? If so…
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It’s how I do it - there are enough morons in the world that you’ll rarely get 100% agreement on something. If they can’t come up with valid reasons for their position, their refusal to admit defeat says nothing of value about the situation.
Because those are the specific countries that McCain referred to in his statement.
Perhaps it would help to go back and review what McCain said in full context. Scroll up for a link.
South Korea and Japan are brought up because those are the examples McCain used when referring to what we might be doing in Iraq for 100 years. You know, maintaining a strategic and/or peacekeeping base of operations in the region. Outside of war.
Now, McCain may very well be kidding himself to expect that could happen in Iraq, but that’s not what Mr. Obama contended. Obama explicitly stated McCain wants the war in Iraq to continue for another hundred years. Can you honestly not see the difference?
- If she believes they are real then she is willfully ignorant and perpetuating a lie.
- If she believes they are not real then she is a liar.
If Sarah Palin thinks that’s hyperbole, perhaps she could use a few lessons from Biden.