Life on Earth has Just Changed - The North Atlantic Current is Gone

Yep. Experience has shown that those who actually know what they’re talking about and have good scientific data to share are not inclined to proffer the nonsense. They realize that extraneous horsecrap does not bolster their credibility, but rather lessens it – unless one is trying to gain the trust of the ignorant and gullible. In other words, people who have the facts eschew the bullshit, people who don’t embrace it.

Look at it this way, the Gulf Stream is 100km wide and 1km deep. Say it moves at 1 m/s (2 mph). That gives a flow rate of 10[sup]8[/sup] cubic meters of water per second (100,000 tons of water per second). The oil spill and dispersants simply aren’t in the same league as the Gulf Stream

The Greenland ice sheet, on the other hand, is about 3 million cubic kilometres of water or 3x10[sup]15[/sup] cubic meters. That’s basically an amount of water equal to that moved by the gulf every year. That’s comparable.

Concerning the “Rt Hon. the Earl of Stirling” see this linkto baronage.co.uk. Not the most convincing background for world shattering scientific news!

More on the “Earl of Stirling”.

HAITI KILLER QUAKE CAUSED BY SCALAR WEAPON

:rolleyes:

I like this scientific observation about halfway down the webpage:

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A new Ice Age, could kill 2/3 of the human race in the first year in a rapid onset; a slower onset would likely kill close to this number but simply take a handful of years.!
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I did not know that. That’s some scary stuff! Four billion people DEAD in the FIRST YEAR of a new “rapid onset” Ice Age! How come you don’t hear about this on the nooz? Seems like quite a story!
Brrrrrrrr…

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Yup, 2/3 in the first year, and twice that many in the second.

And that’s only possible if we HURRY and produce a LOT of new humans tout de suite! Folks, we have a SOLEMN DUTY to procreate as much as possible starting NOW! DON’T DELAY!

Jeez, I wish those conservatives would make up their mind. A few months back they were complaining that Obama wasn’t doing anything about the oil spill. So he started an ice age that will kill off four billion people. And now they’re complaining about that.

This effect was clearly shown in the scientific documentary The Day after Tomorrow

“Run! The weather’s coming!”

Although Mr Alexander claims, among other titles, to be “Viscount of Canada”, he appears to live in the U.S., and there’s no evidence that he, or any of his direct male-line ancestors, is or were a Canadian citizen.

Mother Nature is gettin’ out the strap-on :eek:

I noticed it’s been getting dark earlier. Is this a sign of the new ice age?

No, but it makes the odds worse.

Peer-reviewed journals, which are the gold standard for sources on scientific matters, don’t generally allow a lot of BS in their articles. (There are exceptions, but they’re few and far between) The fact that this article contains such BS means that it almost certainly doesn’t come from a peer-reviewed journal. Other sources are less reliable in scientific matters.

The political screeds reveal that whoever wrote this article had some motive other than revealing the outcome of a scientific study. This isn’t an infallible indicator that someone is wrong, but it makes the chances worse. People who feel strongly about an issue can blind themselves to data that contradicts what they want to believe about the issue. This can be conscious or not, and is something that real scientists have to watch out for.

The presence of political screeds in articles about scientific matters isn’t always an indication that the information is unreliable, but it’s a pretty good rule of thumb to assume that it is.

“New ice age” should also be a term that sets your BS detector beeping. A huge farrago of nonsense has been written about this possibility. You may remember Richard Noone’s 5/5/2000 Ice: The Ultimate Disaster. Pseudoscientists, for some reason, tend to return to the same collection of topics, like a dog returning to its vomit. The “face on Mars”, for example, seems to come back into the news about once a decade. Any time you read about a topic that the pseudoscientists have been over and over in the past, the default assumption should be to be skeptical. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I’m not in a situation to procreate immediately. Is it OK to run a quick equipment check?

I sorry Dopers, but you forgot to take into account this, from the comments:

Clearly the situation is far more credible and dire than you imagine.

ETA, we really need a finger-down-your-throat-vomit smiley, I think.

Interesting, while not completely related aside. One of the scientists I work with pointed out to me a rather simple yet overlooked factoid. The majority of oceanic water level rise is not due to runoff or melt, but merely the expansion of water caused by oceanic temperature rise.

Interesting. That assumes no major deglaciation I guess, but then none is predicted.

Another surprising factoid is that the sea-line will recede in places like Norway as its ice-pack melts. That’s because the ice is pushing the land down.

:smiley: Dammit, and I can’t even explain to my co-workers why I snortled so loud! :smiley:

That is happening in the UK at the moment, recovering from the last ice age - basically Scotland up and the South of England down. It’s a slow process tbf, and suspect might be a very marginal effect when/if there is significant sea-level rise due to other factors.

Yes. Depending on where you live, you may, in fact, find yourself surrounded by snow and ice within a few short months!