We’ve got Bush; we’ve got Bush.
Good bad or indifferent, I’m not saying. Just letting y’all know. I turned on the TV and saw a newsbreak, thought it was more yammering, then the announcer somehow got my attention. Whatsername seemed to be smirking when she made the final call. So what was that–a difference of three votes?
Congratulations, America. I guess. 
Fuckity fuck fuck. Not that I’m surprised. Katherine Harris’s Marilyn Monroe act gave it all away.
Aah well. Gives us something to laugh about for the next 4 yrs.
Need any new citizens in YOUR country, Coldy? I’m outta here!
Thanks, Coldy.
Godammitalltohell. I’ve been at work, so I didn’t know. I knew that Palm Beach was gonna report around six, but…
Oh, well. Roe vs. Wade goodbye. NRA in the White House, hello. Coldie, can I crash on your couch till my visa falls through? I’ll even try to keep my feminine charms to a minimum so as to not tempt you from your chickie. I need a little liberalism right now. ::sigh::
You know what I find most disturbing? I’m listening to Bush give his little speech afterwards from the teleprompters and, that’s what it was. A speech read from the teleprompters. Clinton could act. Clinton could BS. It looked as if Bush had no clue what he was going to say, no clue what his next opinion was, until the screen scrolled up a little more.
I don’t want 4 years of a presidency by committee. I don’t want the speechwriters ruling the country.
Sigh…I want Jebadiah Bartlett.
Congratulations on getting it settled - it’s going to be something to tell the grandkids. Here’s hoping for some statesmanship in victory as well as defeat.
Oh, and Swiddles, if you’re scared of tempting poor Coldfire with your feminine ways, my couch happens to be completely vacant as well 
Seriously, as I’ve posted before, don’t turn the fact that every vote is counted into a problem. It’s the way it should be. But perhaps the process could do with some streamlining…
S. Norman
Don’t count on it. Palm Beach county did not count 1000 votes. They requested two more hours and were denied. So they had to use the machine tally, probably costing Gore about 700 votes. This along with mob rule in Miami-Dade county that stopped the counting there. I didn’t vote for him, but Florida officials on Bush’s should have been very subtle with the way they robbed the votes for Gore. This will go to the US Supreme Court.
Hell, yes. This announcement is just another step along the path. One wonders how many victory speeches Bush is actually going to make before this whole thing is done.
And maybe it’s just me, but Katherine Harris’s credibility in my eyes was not helped by her inablility to keep a shit-eating grin off her face as she prepared to announce the results.
Funny, I just left Sweden yesterday…
Now I really want to go back.
(And not just because of Shrub, either. ;))
I saw that, too, and you could hardly see the guy’s hand in his back.
Dubya a bit stiff? Nahhhhhhh.
It beats four more years of focus group governing.
Algore should freaking concede already. I’d have a lot more respect for the guy if he abandoned this “win at all costs” attitude. It’s teaching America that it’s okay to change the rules if following the rules doesn’t get you the expected result.
For the record, I am not a fan of G.W. I couldn’t vote in this election because I couldn’t vote for any of the candidates without alienating my own conscience.
I think the Democratic Party should concede this one and put together a strong offering for 2004. Without winning the popular vote, G.W. is vulnerable and the Democrats could do to G.W. what they did to his dad in 1990.
I have to ask. Why do you think this? Do you even know what Roe v. Wade is? Most people I talk to seem to think it legalizes abotion. Are you one of these people? Are you one of the people who fell for another Democratic scaremongering tactic, such as the ‘Bush is going to repeal Brown v. The Board of Education’ ploy?
Just curious.
If Roe v. Wade didn’t legalize abortion in the US, what did? And the corollary question, what does Roe v. Wade actually do, then? If fearing for the reversal of this decision is misplaced in the efforts to keep abortion legal here, what should people be worried about?
C’mon, Aglarond, you can do better than that.
Olent,
IIRC Roe says the states cannot outlaw abortion. If it was overturned tomorrow, abortion would still be legal unless and until some state decided to outlaw it and passed a law doing so. I don't know if any states would do that (maybe Utah?)Ah, gotcha. So it makes abortion a federal question rather than a matter for the individual states.
Given the consideration that abortions are only available in 14% of the counties across the U.S., it certainly seems to be reasonable to want to keep a federal decision in place that won’t allow states to ban abortions outright, no?
Sorry swiddles, I like you but I have to go against you on this one.
What is so bad about having a president who is NOT dedicated to raping the Bill of Rights? The Constitution recognizes the importance of an armed populace (read the constitutional debates and the Federalist in case you doubt the intentions behind it), and as such protects and guarantees your right to arm yourself if you choose. At the same time, nobody is making you own a gun. You don’t like 'em? Don’t buy one.
A Constitutional election has given us (at least until Gore’s next legal challenge… :rolleyes:) G.W. Bush as president. He wasn’t my candidate of choice either, but he’s a damn sight better than Al “any-which-way-the-wind-blows” Gore, IM-Not-So-HO.
I’m vehemently against anybody who seeks to limit my Constitutional freedoms. All these people claim to be pro-choice, right? Well I “choose” to arm myself and I “choose” to vote for somebody who is dedicated to uphold the Constitution. You know, like every president swears to do in his oath of office?
Oh, wait. What you guys mean is you’re pro-choice just so long as I choose what you want me to choose, right?
When I hear that on January 20, I want to at least think that it is not a lie. With Gore I can’t even have that.
In my rush to make my argument, I didn’t pay attention and quoted the wrong oath of office. HERE is the lie that Gore wants to swear:
All his faults aside, I honestly believe Bush will uphold the Constitution and the freedoms it represents. Gore has already shown a proclivity for treading on, and being the enemy of, liberty.