I’m pretty sure that vBulletin doesn’t even have such a feature so it’s a non-starter anyway. There is something similar where you can rate a post anywhere from one to five stars and the average is displayed. I think that you’d find very little support for that as well and I wouldn’t want that here either.
I’m pretty active on reddit which does have upvotes. I occasionally find myself really liking a post here and instinctively trying to upvote it.
One thing I’ve seen elsewhere is a “Thanks” option - people can click a button to say “thanks” then underneath the post, it will say “UserName A/B/C/D etc say thanks for this post”. No “upvoting”, no popularity contests, not “karma”, just the ability to acknowledge a worthwhile contribution without having to make post.
I know it’s weird, but the post count does discourage me from posting. It’s not unusual for me to type a post and then ask myself “is this post worth incrementing my post count?”. And often enough the answer is “no”.
Sites like Reddit and Slashdot have mechanisms where upvoted posts are more visible, and where it’s possible to not even see downvoted posts. That goes against the nature of this board, where everyone has equal say.
Likes/dislikes are binary, and this means that liking a short joke is the same as liking a long and detailed explanation. Karma harvesters therefore produce massive numbers of short, inoffensive posts that easily gain likes. These drown out posts with actual content, which may require more than a few seconds of reading to determine if they’re a positive contribution.
There are some Reddit subforums that maintain a decent post quality, but in my experience they combine it with heavy-handed moderation to keep things on topic. That wouldn’t fly here, either.
While I’m all for a like button, I’d probably oppose upvotes (reddit style at least) or karma points. Although I don’t know that karma harvesters would be a problem (don’t really have experience with “karma” boards). Not sure what’s gained by karma harvesting, nor am I sure that would be a problem with our group.
A simple like button? No problem. And would give me a chance to show some appreciation to posts I like without cluttering the board. I’ll be the first to admit that sometimes another poster expressed exactly what I want to say much better than I would say it myself. Right now my choices are silence or repeating what has been written more poorly than it’s already been said.
That can come across as a little… not sycophantic, but still in the same area code - especially when you’ve got multiple posters basically coming in to say “Well said, popular poster!”
No different than any other kind of attention whoring. People get a little dopamine hit when they get paid attention to. Adding metrics ups the ante.
I’d say it’s less of a problem here than other places, but it only takes a small percentage to clutter things up.
I wouldn’t oppose a simple “thanks” button that: wasn’t scored on a per-user basis, was just a binary per-post flag, and anonymous. Just a little icon at the top of a post that said “Another user sent thanks for this post”. Still, it seems unnecessary.
Right. If it was actual voting on the posts, that’d be one thing. But too many here would simply downvote all posts by certain posters. Thus making such a thing useless.
Ontopic: I think a like button for particular posts would improve the board. I know you curmudgeons chafe at the idea. Yeah, it’s not necessary. Neither are shoes.
I don’t think Karma that is added up at the end of the day is useful, just a numerical rating of how many like a particular post.
The only downside, is it would increase the sense of persecution that the conservative posters feel, since they don’t have the numbers. But I’m willing to live with that.
And Lizard eats Paper. And poisons Spock, but Spock would not approach and try to eat Rock Lobster since they both have copper-based blood and that hits a bit too close to home.
You really can’t argue for Like buttons when the alternative is to require people to post thoughtful remarks, inane puns, and sarcastic comments.