List your Top 10 Players of All-Time from your favorite NFL team

And who do you kick on that list if you include Levon Kirkland and Greg Lloyd? Every one of those picks are or will be in the Hall of Fame. Greg Lloyd will only see the HoF if he buys a ticket.

A few good seasons makes you a great Bengal. It doesn’t make you a great Steeler. There are too many greats for a short-term great to make a long-term list.

Stink Fish Pot: No issue with Mel Blount kicking Swann off the list, but I am surprised that you put Bradshaw up so high. Without the rings he’s not even as good numerically as Earl Morrall, and he got kicked to the bench twice in his career for Terry Hanratty and Joe Gilliam. He came through in the clutch, but for me that doesn’t completely eliminate his shortcomings, which were painfully obvious in his later years when the team was much weaker.

Lloyd was a five time probowl selection…you don’t think he’ll eventually get in the Hall, or will he not get in because he played for the Steelers and there’s so many of them in already?

And ouch on the Bengals snark…very ouch.

Redskins

  1. Sammy Baugh - one of the all-time great football players for *any *team. Period.

  2. John Riggins - no explanation necessary

  3. Art Monk - ditto

  4. Darrell Green - ditto

  5. Ken Houston - ditto

  6. Mark Mosely - only kicker to ever win MVP.:eek:

  7. Doug Williams - guided possibly the single most dominant quarter in Super Bowl history

  8. Dexter Manley - the Secretary of Defense

  9. Russ Grimm - only Hog in the HOF (so far)

  10. Sonny Jurgensen - great player, but mostly because he cracks me up listening to him calling Skins games on the radio.

No, I don’t think that he will make the Hall. The voters haven’t even troubled themselves to put in Donnie Shell, who is only one of the greatest strong safeties to play the game. Lloyd isn’t even the first among Steelers linebackers that deserve to go in.

And that line about the Bengals wasn’t intended to be snarky, although I knew as soon as I submitted it that it would be taken that way. And that’s OK too. But really, let’s face facts: the Bengals have a long history of futility, and when a guy like Rudi Johnson makes an all-time top-10 list even in conversation it’s indicative of a lack of greatness, which their long-term record affirms.

Staying with Rudi Johnson as an example, I might as well put Walter Abercrombie on the Steelers list. The difference is that I have a lot of other options that are much better, and Johnson is a legit pick for the Bengals.

Did you have to see him play to know that Jim Brown just might be one of the top 10 Browns of All-time?
No Leroy Kelly?
No love for Brian Sipe.

Kids nowadays!!

I might also add Jack Snow, Lawrence McCutcheon, Jack “Hacksaw” Reynolds and Nolan Cromwell to the HM list.

You need to get Harold Carmicheal in there.

IMO, the Steelers don’t win those last two Super Bowls without Bradshaw. He had a rocket for an arm and he won every SB he played in. And every player’s shortcomings become obvious toward the end of their own career, especially when the team around them wasn’t the same. Franco Harris comes immediately to mind.

Numbers don’t tell the whole story with Bradshaw. They had a dominant defense, and a strong running game, so his need to pass wasn’t there in the beginning of his career. But when the game changed, he was able to adjust and be successful.

I know what you are saying. But Roethlisberger reminds me how hard it is to find a great QB. The Steelers had some great teams between the Super Bowl drought, but didn’t have the QB to get them to the next step. Can you imagine if the Steelers weren’t saddled with Kordell Stewart for close to a decade? I mean, in 10 years, THAT guy was the best they could do?

I’ll stand by my ranking, but I can respect your opinions.

Um, hello, Neal O’Donnell?

;):smiley:

Gong for the Dolphins, first thoughts out of my head. I l’ll probably forget a couple

  1. Richmond webb
  2. Mark Duper
  3. Paul Warfield
    7.Dick Anderson
  4. Zach Thomas
    5 Bob Griese
  5. Mark Clayton
  6. Buoniconti
  7. Csonka
  8. Marino

Jason Taylor.

You mean NY JET Jason Taylor? Bah to that(for at least a few more years)

Mercury Morris and Jim Kiick come to mind for the Dolphins, although your list is pretty solid.

We got him a Championship, the Eagles never did. We get dibs.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers

  1. Leroy Selmon - The “Gentle Giant” has given so much to the community both on and off the field and he’s our only Hall of Famer.

  2. Derrick Brooks - Derrick was the QB of one of the best defenses ever.

  3. Warren Sapp - The NFL is still looking for “the next Warren Sapp.” That says it all.

  4. Hardy Nickerson - Hardy was a mercenary but his leadership and play was key to our rise from obscurity to a respected ball club. His influence and mentorship of the young Derrick Brooks will always be remembered amongst Bucs fans.

  5. John Lynch - We should never have let him go.

  6. Ronde Barber - Ronde is a threat in so many ways and his motor hasn’t slowed down in 14 years. He may not be a lockdown corner there’s no doubt that opposing offenses had to account for him every down he played.

  7. James Wilder - James was such a talent but unfortunately he was the only talent we had and we used him to death. James was a workhorse like Earl Campbell ( not at that talent level obviously ) who had a short but productive career. James is still the Buccaneers all time rushing and reception leader. How much was he worked? In 1984 he set NFL records for carries (407) and touches (492) in a single season.

  8. Simeon Rice - He was crazier than a bed bug but he was also one of the best pash rushers of all time.

  9. Doug Williams - He wasn’t good statistically but he was an amazing competitor and team leader. I’m still a fan of Doug.

  10. Josh Freeman - Ok, maybe a bit premature but he’s doing something very special right now, leading the youngest team in the NFL to a winning record. His record as a starter is 11-11 and 7 of those 11 wins have been 4th quarter come from behind victories. He’s got a long way to go to be special but he’s already amongst the best QB’s we’ve had and he’s a second year player.

Honorable mention - Steve Young. Obviously the best NFL player to ever play for the Buc’s he wasn’t amongst the best Bucs as I understood the question since his years in Tampa weren’t good. Letting him go was one of my worst memories as a Bucs fan.

The Dolphins had some GREAT squads, so there are BOUND to be great players left off any list.

But I’d like to see some of their brilliant offensive linemen (specifically Jim Langer, Bob Kuechenberg, Larry Little and Dwight Stephenson) on your list.

I know, I know, who do we take off to make room for them???

Cleveland Browns:

  1. Jim Brown FB but really used more like a running HB as well as a short passs receiver
  2. Otto Graham QB (maybe should be #1 was three times MVP)
  3. Lou Groza (great offensive lineman as well as kicker)
  4. Ozzie Newsome WR in the 80s
  5. Bernie Kosar QB won back-to-back AFC championships.
  6. Leroy Kelly not up there with Brown, but was a perennial Pro-Bowler
  7. Gary Collins WR-punter probably not as good as my memory of him, but he was always running long pass patterns on 3rd down and still in there to punt on 4th when the first down wasn’t made.
  8. Frank Ryan (like Collins probably not as good as my memory, but he led the Browns to their only championship after Graham retired. And anyone who plays in the NFL and has a PhD in Math has to get some respect.
    9-10. Gee there should be some defensive players, but I don’t seem to recall any
    very possibly deserving, but before my time:
    Marion Motley FB, Dante Lavelli WR

Just to note that Ozzie Newsome was a TE (not a WR), and Kosar got the Browns to two AFC Championship Games ('86 and '87), but they lost both games to the Broncos.

I recollect some defensive Browns:

LB Clay Mathews
LB Chip Banks
DB Frank Minnifield
DB Hanford Dixon
DT Bob Golic

18 Pro Bowls from these five in mid to late 80’s.

I can’t believe I forgot Conrad Dobler. Let’s put him instead of Boldin.