Little girl becomes a traitor at the Jedi Academy

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@chrisk

…By the time Leia would be old enough to run for office, however, Palpatine was the government of the Empire…

I probably shouldn’t get into this, but… Leia wasn’t elected to the Senate, was she? She’s, like, 20 years old in Star Wars. Her mom was even younger. I thought it was an automatic honorary title for members of the royal family, like the House of Lords or something…?

[Hypno-Toad]

But Leia grew up as Senator Organas daughter. Not on Naboo, her birth moms home. So it’s the Alderanian government that’s at question.

[muldoonthief]

@rocking_chair

i believe that her dad bail organa was the senator for alderaan at the begining of star wars. leia was working with him with regard to the rebellion as she would be able to do more under cover type things. i would guess doing princess type/ambassador type things as mum was the queen.

Princess Leia’s line to Darth Vader, from the movie - “I’m a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.” I’d think that means she’s a Senator.

[Scuba_Ben]

@muldoonthief

Princess Leia’s line to Darth Vader, from the movie - “I’m a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.” I’d think that means she’s a Senator.

Yes, but the comeback is relevant: “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor. Take her away!”

So the Rebels in the Imperial government are traitors. And a Jedi student who switches sides would be a traitor to the rest of the Jedi.

[Intergalactic_Gladiator]

@chrisk

I assumed that ‘traitor’ wasn’t meant with respect to a government, but (tongue in cheek) with respect to the Jedi Academy itself.

In-universe, I would certainly argue that any Jedi Padawan who had been trained by a Jedi Council-sanctioned Master, and then agreed to serve Darth Vader and join the dark side, would be a traitor to the ‘Jedi cause’. They might also be considered a traitor to the old Republic if they had lived while it was theoretically in existence, but that becomes a lot murkier.
And then you get into the question of whether Leia Organa, for instance, is truly a traitor against the Empire. To me, it depends on whether there was ever trust on either side between the Emperor and her family, or simply a refusal to go to war yet.

@Maggie_the_Ocelot

Oh sure, I know what they meant, was just having fun pointing out the different perspective.

And IIRC (IANASWG), Leia was a Senator at the beginning of A New Hope, yet was working for the Rebellion as well. If Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) was secretly working for Al Quaeda, would he be a traitor?

You’re both right, from a certain point of view…

[rocking_chair]

the leia issue aside…

i am impressed by how well the guy playing windu handled the situation. he was really good.

[Elendil_s_Heir]

@Intergalactic_Gladiator

You’re both right, from a certain point of view…

FTW!

[Voyager]

I guess she saw the third movie and knew who was coming out alive. Smart kid.

[TokyoBayer]

@kittenblue

Wonder if it was her own idea or if her parents coached her to do that.

My thoughts.

Sigh, I wish I were less jaded.

[Scuba_Ben]

@rocking_chair

i am impressed by how well the guy playing windu handled the situation. he was really good.

I saw the clip last night, and I agree – Windu handled it very well. I’m a touch disappointed in Vader, though. I hoped he’d be more receptive to his new apprentice.

ETA with the obvious line: I find Vader’s lack of faith disturbing.

[Alka_Seltzer]

If she could be turned, she would make a powerful ally.

[carnivorousplant]

@RandMcnally

decided she wanted to join the dark side instead.

That’s because Evil is Cool and Good is Dumb.

[Miller]

@Scuba_Ben

I saw the clip last night, and I agree – Windu handled it very well. I’m a touch disappointed in Vader, though. I hoped he’d be more receptive to his new apprentice.

I doubt the guy in the suit is doing Vader’s lines, which I’d guess are pre-recorded. He might have pantomimed something, but that’s a harder ad-lib.

[Yookeroo]

@Miller

I doubt the guy in the suit is doing Vader’s lines, which I’d guess are pre-recorded. He might have pantomimed something, but that’s a harder ad-lib.

Right. Vader’s lines are pre-recorded.

And I don’t think that’s supposed to be Windu.

[Elendil_s_Heir]

@Yookeroo

And I don’t think that’s supposed to be Windu.

Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking Jedi in this motherfucking theme park!

[Jragon]

Christ, the kid was gonna get close to Vader, learn the empire’s secrets, and then topple it from the inside.

Pfft, Jedi. No sense of subtlety.

[Scuba_Ben]

@Elendil_s_Heir

Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking Jedi in this motherfucking theme park!

Second best line in this thread!

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[Zebra]

I bet she has seen mommy and daddy playing sub/dom games in their basement.

[BigT]

He may have been late, but Czarcasm had the better title:

My hope for the future of America has been renewed!