I love it when she mends.
I guess some people here would have a fit if they knew that, in the vernacular of many of my pupils, I ‘learn them the violin’.
Just out of curiosity, is there a difference in which you would expect to be paid back, or which would be paid back soonest?
Could you loan me $3?
Could you lend me $3?
Could you loan me a pencil?
Could you lend me a pencil?
Or would they be the same? Personally, I’d find ‘loan me a pencil’ to sound a little odd. And I’d never say loan me your car. In fact, rather than lend, I’d probably ask if I could borrow it.
My (recent) dictionary (Merriam-Webster) defines loan as a noun, money lent at interest or something lent for the borrower’s temporary use or the grant of temporary use. All of those are nouns.
It gives the other “perfectly proper” definition this way:
2. loan vb : LEND
That looks to me like a capitulation to usage. I really don’t know how far back you would have to go to find a dictionary without that number 2 definition, but I’m pretty sure one could be found.
When’s the last time you heard somebody say, “Please loan me a hand?”
Hang in there, BrainGlutton! I will (oops!) shall not desert you!
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. He’s just being argumentative!
Then by all means find one. It’s your claim, so you have to find the cite.
I think a lot of folks here have a number 2 definition of the word.
I’d’ve never said that. At least not verbly.
Oxford English Dictionary Online
Presently, adv.
*1. a. Without delay; at once, forthwith, immediately; instantly; quickly, promptly
*, Now Brit. regional and rare.
*2. b. In a little while, before long, soon.
Now the usual sense.
The development of this sense from 1a was so imperceptible, that early examples, esp. before c1650, are dubious. *
In Shakespeare most if not all occurrences of the word are in the earlier sense.
So you have no intention of standing with him, but you are going to do it some time in the future, regardless of your intent?
Good luck with that. The usage being railed against in the OP predates the first English-language dictionary by about a century.
I used to work with a guy that used to ask “Can you borrow me a fiver?”
No I can’t you ignorant twat, not until you learn to ask me if I can LEND you a fiver.
Then it’s still no 'cos I’ll never see it again
The Online Etymology Dictionary on loan:
[sup]1[/sup]Old Norse
[sup]2[/sup]Proto-Germanic
[sup]3[/sup]Old High German
[sup]4[/sup]Proto-Indo-European
[sup]5[/sup]Old English
[sup]6[/sup]Middle English
How do you figure?
A capitulation to usage? How else do you think words are defined? Words mean what they mean because that’s how people use them. The entire dictionary is a capitulation to usage.
That one made me grend.
grends
How so? Is it in some kind Capitulation font? Or is there a footnote in your dictionary that states all definitions with a “2” in front of them are capitulations to the lowly gruntings of the commoners, unlike the “1” definitions which were carved into a marble slab by the burning wang of the God Of Definitions as he sat on his throne on Mt Olympus?
Even ignoring the little fact that the whole goddamn dictionary is a “capitulation to usage” as fachverwirrt helpfully points out, this is quite a bizarre argument.
It’s funny that even on an issue as cut and dry as this, when every single reference on Earth agrees that the verb usage is 100 percent correct, some folks still cannot admit being simply mistaken.
Fuck you and your attitude, OP. Come back when someone dies and makes you the King of the English Language.