Local honey won't cure your allergies

Local honey won’t cure your allergies- most of the things that people are allergic to are wind-pollinated, not pollinated by bees. It makes sense when you think about it- of course the kind of pollen that gets picked up by bees would be stickier than the kind that blows around in the wind. It also makes sense that wind-blown pollen would be lighter than pollen that is carried by bees. Of course you’d be more likely to breathe in pollen carried by wind than pollen carried by bees.

The claim that local honey would affect allergies also assumes that the honey actually does contain pollen and actually comes from where the package says it does- which often isn’t the case.

If local honey really did contain a significant amount of pollen that people were allergic to, there would be a risk of triggering allergic reactions by eating it.

Another alternative/natural medicine claim bites the dust (or pollen, in this case).

What about drinking goat’s milk to reduce allergic reaction to poison ivy?

It will - if you are a bee. :smiley:

I’ve heard that if you wrap a dead black snake around your neck it will cure goiter because of the iodine in the snake’s scale pigment.

If you’re drinking it straight from the goat, make sure you’re not kneeling in any poison ivy.

Yeah, I’ve been eating local honey for years now. Mostly because it’s yummy and well, local. My allergies are just as bad as ever.

The first year we found a source of local honey, my gf pointed out that her allergies were improving!!! I reminded her that her allergies are seasonal, and they always improved around that time. But the honey is delicious.

Ack, this nonsense drives me crazy. How would eating your (inhaled) allergen improve your immune response anyway?

Urushiol from poison ivy doesn’t pass into goat’s milk. If the allergen can’t be detected in the milk, then drinking it shouldn’t have much effect either way on your reaction to poison ivy.

Actually, there’s some evidence that that might work, at least for grass allergies. The problem is that local honey doesn’t contain the pollen that is responsible for most people’s allergies.

Growing up, we had neighbors who were oldtimey farmers. The father made poison ivy and butter sandwiches. He and his two sons ate a sandwich a piece every year. The kids told me about the horrible diarrhea they’d get. They also got poison ivy many times every year. Their dad always pointed out how much worse they’d be if they hadn’t been protected by the sandwiches he made them eat.

You can get chevre with honey from Trader Joe’s. You should, even though it probably won’t affect your allergies or your response to poison ivy, because it’s yummy.

:eek:

They’re lucky they just got diarrhea. You can die from eating poison ivy. Think about it- you’re putting a substance that can cause irritation and swelling in your throat. Some other animals don’t react to poison ivy the way humans do, and they can eat it.

Worst case I read about was some poor fellow who attempted to get rid of poision ivy by cutting it down and burning it in a firepit.

As it turns out, the oils are present in the smoke … and inhaling that smoke is a really bad idea.

Elaborating on Anne Neville’s response and link, basically the idea is to train your immune system to have a more measured response to the allergen.

An allergic reaction happens when certain classes of antibodies (immunoglobulin E or IgE) bind to an allergen, which then causes mast cells to release histamine. Allergy immunotherapy gives you regular doses of the allergen, which encourages the development of regulatory T cells that recognize the allergen. The regulatory T cells will bind to the allergen and then secrete substances that prevent the production of the IgE antibodies. The general approach pretty reliably reduces allergy severity for most allergens studied so far.

Traditionally the allergen is administered by injection, but this needs to be done by a doctor since there’s a risk of anaphylactic shock. Now there are also sublingual drops which are a lot easier to administer. Since they also have a negligable risk of anaphylactic shock, the patient can take the drops without regular doctor visits. However, I haven’t found a satisfying explanation of how and why allergen dosing in one way (pollen all up in your nose) causes an allergic reaction, but when dosed another way (subcutaneous injections or sublingual drops) there is the development of the regulatory T cell response.

So, going back to the idea that honey might treat allergies: conceptually it might work as well as sublingual immunotherapy. However, that requires regular dosing of the exact kind of pollen that causes your allergies. Most seasonal allergies are caused by pollen that spreads with the wind, but bees gather pollen from flowers that do not release their pollen to be blown around indiscriminately. Therefore, as the study in the OP demonstrates empirically, honey won’t help your allergies.

(This year I started a course of sublingual immunotherapy for tree allergies, but the specific allergen I need is off-label for this use. Unfortunately, since the FDA wants clinical trials to prove efficacy of immunotherapy of each individual allergen, and there are so many different allergens, there probably will never be FDA-approved immunotherapies for a lot of common allergens. We just saw that Oralair was approved for grass allergies, but I suspect there will be diminishing returns for any pharmaceutical company considering treatments for the less common allergies.)

I’d rather eat honey than inhale bees.
I probably missed the point of this thread.:stuck_out_tongue:

Swallowing an allergen to reduce sensitivity to it isn’t really any crazier than injecting it (arguably less so, if you’re a needle-phobe like me), but we know that people get allergy shots. Of course, this isn’t something you would want to do at home with no one looking out for symptoms of a serious allergic reaction. Taking an unknown quantity of the allergen, which is what you’d have in local honey if it did contain pollen you were allergic to, doesn’t seem wise, either.

You and Nic Cage, both. :wink:

Allergies nothwithstanding, eating local honey helps cure a condition called “no money” common with local bee keepers.

I’m as sweet as Tupelo honey.