Is that name-calling in GD? I didn’t think that was allowed in this forum. Anyway, stating that President Bush will be re-elected makes me a fascist? How so? And what’s up with the slam on Germans?
I agree with this. I didn’t mean to imply that I thought Bush, or even the GOP, would necessarily get involved with that level of subterfuge or deceit, as I’m sure the vast majority of politicians, regardless of leaning, at heart do believe in the notion of democracy and fairness.
But the issue worth watching, for me, is some faceless corporation who could have the motive and opportunity to ‘pull strings’ with the machines on the closely contested swing states to favour a politician who would later invoke / remove legislation that would support their specific interests. Such a scenario is not too difficult to imagine, but rather horrible to contemplate.
So, (to end the hi-jack) there’s no sign of any WMDs then? To quote Bob Dylan in “It’s alright Ma”, “Your empty handed armies, are all going home”.
That’s not name calling, sheesh! The implication is that if George Bush is elected again, it means another four years of what to me, IMO, is equivalent to a fascist regime (this opinion is shared by others, I’m sure). The irony is that I have nothing against Germany and would probably feel safer and more ideologically compatible with modern Germans/Germany, despite their political history.
Well its not so unbeleivable... Nixon did resort to "subterfuge"... it wouldn't be the first time a Republican did it. Tonkin Bay rings a bell too. Considering that you only need to fake a few thousand votes in key states just makes it even easier to get away with.Call me stupid, but I just love those silly novelty songs…
All Around the World by “Little Willie” John
And if I don’t love you baby
Grits ain’t groceries
Bush is Nazises
And Mona Lisa was a man.
Weapons of mass destruction, schweapons of fass restruction…
When are you people going to realize that its not about the details, its about the overall, and Iraq was merely phase one (and an amazingly successful one at that). Here’s several reasons why…
Well this “amazing” sucess seems to be taking a while… I wonder when Bushie Oil Jr. will go to step 2 Israeli Palestinian… never mind step 3 North Korea… or step 5 Chechen War. Why piss Putin ? Why do I feel Bush is fucking things up more than solving them…
Hail Ants:
What a pathetic, last ditch defense from the side of the aisle that, prior to the war, was screaming that Hussein was an overwhelming threat to America, one requiring a military response.
Me, I guess I’m just too stupid to realize it’s not about the “details”…tiny little insignificant “details,” like the tons of chemical munitions, the thousands of liters of botulinum toxin, the drone aircraft, the yellowcake purchases, the aluminum tube centrifuges, etc., etc. Stupid, stupid me. Good thing we have Hail Ants here to enlighten us as to what’s really going on.
But if these “details” were so unimportant, I wonder why Bush made such a big deal about them? That he didn’t just step up to the podium and state flatly, ”My fellow Americans, fuck the details…our invasion of Iraq is just phase one of the overall”…?
Hell, at least that would have been honest.
They actually did make it clear that it was just phase one in the “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” document. Trouble is, they fucked up phase one so comprehensively that there’s not much chance of ever getting to phase two.
Not finding any WMDs in Iraq is exactly the same as Saddam launching Scuds at Israel in the first Gulf War. Yes, its embarrassing, frustrating, and a public relations nightmare. But strategically, its meaningless.
Saddam’s regime is gone forever and that’s a good thing. Among other reasons, because he was perceived as having stood up to and won against the West (by remaining in power after the Gulf War). Potential 9/11-style Arab terrorist strongmen take note: We are not afraid to, are capable of, and don’t need anyone’s permission to take out our enemies, past present or future.
Who, other than Saddam, perceived him as winning? That’s absurd.
Maybe nobody told you Saddam had nothing to do with September 11th, but he didn’t. Getting rid of him won’t intimidate Osama bin Laden. Are you serious? Terrorists who don’t mind blowing themselves up aren’t afraid that you’ll go after them unilaterally. That course will only inflame the population of the Arab world anyway.
Read: We’re just as willing to sacrifice innocent civilians for the sake of our sheer fanatism as you are. Which is why we made sure there’s twice as many of you, giving us twice as many reasons to bomb a nation back into the stone age.
Basically the entire Arab world did. They don’t have much success winning wars so this was viewed as a ‘win’.
No, but the thousands of people who support them do. It takes a lot more than just the ones actually ready to die to do these things.
Look, I know everyone is going to call me a racist but I don’t care about political correctness post 9/11. This is how you deal with the hostile arab world. With strength, intimidation, and overwhelming military power. This is why Israel still exists even though its totally surrounded by fanatical enemies who hate them. Plus, this is why arabs always lose…
I don’t consider defending our country against global terrorism ‘fanatism’…
Do you have a cite for this assertion?
Your say-so doesn’t make it so.
And you think they will be impressed by bullying? Helped Israel a lot.
Ah, I take it then the KKK is all about being politically incorrect, huh? Butchering a few innocent people is an issue of not being politically correct?
Israel has precisely ZERO success with your oh-so-great strategy. But hey, if a few of these desert rats get eradicated, who cares, huh? Maybe just round them all up and make sure none of them will ever raise a hand again, right?
I don’t consider summary killings ‘defending your country’, and I don’t consider ignorance and nationalistic drivel being threatened by terrorism. It is precisely self-posses spew like yours, declaring American lives as infintely more valuable and all other human beings of the planet as inferior that fuel this hatred. You don’t have the slightest idea what it means to be threatened by terrorism, nor do your great leaders have any experience fighting it, let alone successfully. You just declare the rest of the world expendable, figuring that if no one is there anymore, there is no one who can threaten you. You are spitting on the graves of the victims of terrorism worldwide.