Looking Back 10 Yrs, Comparing 2004 and 2014

What are some trends you have noticed between now in 2014 and back 10 years ago in 2004, could be in any respect?

Fashion: At first glance I would say most people dress the same as they did in 2004, meaning it is not worlds away, whereas fashion in 2004 was very different than 1994, which in turn was different than 1984.
But I was driving by a high school recently and it dawned on me that fashion is quite different among teens. I am 27, and was 17 in '04 in the last year of high school(Class of '05). Guys tended to wear baggy clothes, ALTHOUGH the trend by 2004 was slowly dying out. Today skinny fit seems to be in, a slightly nerdy look among young people my age and even teens.

For social media: it was a transition period, in fact the term “social media” was not in use.
Chat rooms like AOL were already declining, but Facebook was only invented in '04 and became public that year as a company. Most never heard it, in fact only some in Harvard used it, and it would not take off until about 2007 and later. MySpace was also not well known, and forget Twitter, etc. YouTube was only invented a year later.

So I guess most people emailed, and what not but there was no particular “social media” forum that we now know today.
Music: Most top 40 hits were urban music, and blacks had all the number one singles on the Billboard chart in 2004, now urban music has declined as has hip hop and rap.
So your takes fellow Dopers?

May 1, 2003 President Bush declares the end of hostilities in Iraq.

June 2014 Not so much.

In 2004, you could still find pay phones if you looked hard enough, today it is a quest.

Cars look basically the same: in 1974, ten-year-old cars were obvious, today, maybe not so much – even a fifteen year old car looks prettymuch like a one year old car, with a few exceptions.

In 2004 people made eye contact while having a conversation, and they also used their eyes to watch where they were walking.
In 2014, everyone is constantly looking down at their smartphones.

There was this girl I was flirting with ages ago. I used to send her .mp3 files of songs I thought that she might like by e-mail, and we’d talk on MSN Messenger. Things were more romantic back in those days. Sending YouTube links and posting on each other’s Facebook walls just wouldn’t have been the same.

I’ve noticed this. I went to college around 2004, back then people didn’t have smartphones. All the college students walked around with their mp3 players listening to music, but they kept their eyes up. Now they all walk around looking down at their phones.

Aside from that, not much has changed.

Faith in public and private institutions is much lower.

Social media in the US is devoted to petty things, but in many other countries social media is being used to get around media blackouts in oppressive governments

Mass shootings were rare

The rise of reality tv

I was 24 in 2004. Just out of college and two years into my career life.
Some notable things that were different…

Obviously the preponderance of social media today. Back then it was mostly emails and getting phone numbers the old fashioned way (from the ladies, I was single and ready to mingle, lol)…by a piece of paper. In 2004 I got my first phone that texted. It was a big deal for my friends and I. Later that year I got my first camera phone, but it was so terrible I almost never used it. If we wanted to get together as friends, we called each other. We didn’t have Facebook to schedule a party (it was in existence but unheard of outside most college campuses). Friendster was kind of a thing, but never really took off. Match.com had been around a few years, but internet dating was still kind of embarrassing to my age group back then. Now it’s accepted pretty well IMO.
I still used a map to get around, or at least printed directions off the internet. The iPod was getting bigger, I got my first one in early 2005. You could still download music for free (not me, a friend was into that). Today nearly all of those sites are gone unless you go with torrents, which is nowhere near as widespread as LimeWire or Kazaa. I find myself often cursing bc I have to pay for songs I had downloaded a decade ago, but lost bc my computer went haywire.

The fashion has changed. I still have t-shirts from that year I still wear, though they are mostly worn out old ones I wear to do yard work. Sadly I was big into Abercrombie and Fitch, thank goodness I came to my senses. As did most of today’s youth, judging by their falling profits. Tight jeans for men are back in, but I would agree that style has evolved less drastically than in previous decades. I would say that the colors and styles of the 80s are back “in”…short shorts for ladies with the 80s high waistbands, neon and bright colors, Ray Ban style sunglasses, even shorter shorts for men.

I think today’s 20 somethings are more sensitive and PC than we were. I mean, we weren’t bigots, but I think things have swung a bit far in the opposite direction. I am all for acceptance, but some of the things I see today are so over reactive it’s stupid. Common sense has been lost in a lot of cases.

The movie 21 Jump Street lampooned today’s HS kids vs circa 2004-2006 pretty well. Of course it was an exaggeration, but the crux of the movie was that the “cool jock” (Channing Tatum) of 2006 was out of place and crude in 2012 (when the movie came out). Green is in, tolerance to other lifestyles, “nerds/geeks” aren’t locked in lockers, the sensitive guys get the girls, etc. it was pretty interesting.

I think cars are another big area of change. In 2004, no car I’d heard of had an auxiliary jack for MP3 players. Sure there probably were some, but it was not a mainstream thing. Now few cars DON’T have them. And even those are old news. Bluetooth is the way to go now. Same thing with phones. I love getting into my car and not having to look down at my phone to dial someone. I rarely listen to CDs anymore…most of mine are collecting dust in my office. Cars now have big “infotainment” and navigation systems, offering streaming radio and other things: USB Ports, collision avoidance systems, etc. And the factory stereos are miles ahead of anything but top tier cars in 2004. My Buick Regal has a Harmon Kardon stereo that is absolutely outstanding. It makes the Blaupunkt system in my 2009 Pontiac G8 GT look pedestrian.

I think the single biggest thing has been smartphones. Today’s phones have 13+ megapixel cameras, and video capabilities that were non-existent in 2004. Look at all the people who have been caught in compromising situations bc of camera phones. Celebrities, athletes, politicians, etc. have all come under fire for things done and caught on camera. This ties into social media as well. Twitter and Facebook can get you fired these days. Or give a corporation a black eye. And for the regular folks, as an above poster mentioned, everywhere you go people are just looking down at their phones.
Texting and driving was virtually non existent in 2004, now it’s a big problem. An older friend lost his daughter to this, she was texting and lost control of her car. A big reason I sold my motorcycle in 2010 was bc I had so many near misses with people in cars, busy on their phones.

I’d say that this nation is more divided than ever, sadly. I won’t get into too much politics, but the news media is sharply divided and both sides possess strong agendas.
There seems to be no middle ground anymore. And for someone like me, who is a middle of the road type of guy, that is tough to see.

Since the OP is looking for opinions, let’s move this to IMHO.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

Great post, agree with you especially the last part.

In terms of people listening to music, mp3 players were in use, and CDs were still bought and many people my age carried around a CD player. Have not seen one in ages now.

As for the cars changing, mostly the exterior is the same, though SUVs tend to get smaller, think the new Range Rover, or BMW X5.

Many cars now come with a free trial of Sirius XM satellite radio, and back then cars all had CD players and no outlet for your mp3 or ipod.

Ipods were around since 2001, but seem to have taken off after 2005.

Now most everyone has smartphones, back then very rare and they were inferior by 2014 standards. They were not smartphones at all. I think the Razor flip phones were very in around 2004.

Many big brands/businesses were around and doing well in 2004, but are now dead and buried. Think Washington Mutual were ceased in 2008 and bought off by Chase. Quizno’s subs was doing quite well, giving Subway a run for it’s money. Now it is fast going out, and the only other subway chain besides Subway is Jersey’s.

Google then was another search engine, and now you can’t escape it. Anyone remember Ask Jeeves?

Opinions and facts will do;)

I was surprised that first iPhone came out only 7 years ago! First Android phone was 6 years ago. As others have said, smartphones made a huge difference, it is like having a computer in your pocket. But the computer is also a GPS, camera, flash drive, and more.

AOL!

That’s true of cars but not automobiles in general. 10 years ago everyone was still driving SUVs. You can still find large SUVs that look generally like 2004 SUVs, but there’s basically no more midsize to compact SUVs left. The only option is to buy a station wagon some marketer hopes you’ll believe is a “cross over vehicle”. Obviously there have been station wagons for decades, but 10 years they were still an older person / family vehicle that nobody honestly felt good about owning.

Facebook didn’t go public until 2012, and I definitely remember the term “social media” being used around 2004, though mainly in the “Web 2.0” meaning, where every website was going to have its own social network, with comments and forums and user created content, etc.

Other than that, I agree. But I was 22 in 2004 and spend most of it in Iraq. As far as pop culture is concerned, that was my “lost year”. I still come across movies, songs and shows from that year I never knew existed, and all my friends act flabbergasted.

I’m a bit worried about the social media thing. To be honest, I don’t use Facebook or Twitter. I don’t really know much about either of them. I tried having a Facebook profile, but I had to give up on it. It didn’t make any freaking sense to me.

Basically, I don’t really understand that stuff at all, I just know that I hate it.

What worries me is how long I can keep that attitude before I just come across as completely irrelevant. For now, I’m OK (I think), but at some point I have to start sounding like my grandparents, when then go: “I don’t understand these new-fangled ATM machines, but I know that I don’t like’em!”

In 2004, flat-panel TVs were a new and expensive thing. Now they don’t make any other kind.