Looking for advice/guidance on whether to get a second dog

Dinsdale - Right now I have 5 dogs, 3 horses and 2 feral barn cats. The dogs are doing well, although the 13 year old german shepherd can still climb the fence and escape. Stumpy, the youngest dog, was dumped near my farm at 9 months old, in her first heat. She’s a pain in the ass, but loving. The thing above about not having two female dogs is true, individually, the girls get along with all the male dogs. But with each other? There’s a reason they’re called bitches.

Horses are aging. I’ve started riding lessons last year, and have been thinking about adding a younger, smaller horse. I’m not afraid of the height, but getting down isn’t so easy with almost-60 year old knees.

I’m keeping bees, and that’s frustrating, fascinating and rewarding in different ways.

My sister wants a goldendoodle, but I’m not thrilled with the way they keep dogs, and she’s recently had a leg amputated from cancer, which has spread to her lungs. I don’t think it’s a good idea, or I’d buy her one tomorrow.

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jayrey - cool, just making sure you consider ALL the implications. Sounds like you are. We travel w/ our dog as well. I’d imagine 2 big dogs would cut down on some housing options.

Another thing is my wife runs. Well, jogs slowly, really. Just a couple miles a couple times a week, but that seems to help exercise the dog. Possibly good for the humans too! :wink: I’ve seen other people bike with their dogs.

As someone mentioned, swimming REALLY has exhausted every dog I’ve had. But you have to REALLY wear them out before they will stop on their own. Like I said, remember that you are supposed to be the smart, responsible one!

StG - WOW! Decided to add bees into the mix, huh? After just putting down a 12-yr old, enjoy every moment you have w/ that 13-yr old shepherd! So what do you do with your spare time? :smiley:

The goldendoodle is a great mix, but you are right to be aware of the owner’s faults. I have 2 nieces who just adopted rescues. The 1 really doesn’t like dogs, but adopted one to help someone out. The other “:LOVES” dogs. Well, to make it short, the first niece is researching training, the overweight dog has lost weight, etc. The other niece seems to act as tho every dog arrives perfectly trained… And she and her H are not stupid people.

The doodles are really pricey now, and some breeders are pretty much mills. And they are smart enough to require some attention or I suspect they would be trouble. I’ve seen several poorly trained/behaved doodles.

My wife and I are always sorta taken aback at the stupid questions breeders ask, but you have to realize how many clueless prospective owners are out there.

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Tried to but it wouldn’t show up on preview so I dunno. You’re missing the important part tho–HOW CUTE ARE MY DOGGOS, HUH??? :smiley:

Well, Kosh is very cute indeed. I presume the headless one off on the right is Shoga. I’m sure she’s very cute too if we could see her head! :slight_smile:

The OP should consider the possibility that instead of resulting in two best buddies, the addition of a new dog will create a neutral or unfavorable dynamic.

We’ve had as many as three dogs, and they never seemed to care much about hanging out or playing together. Sorry to say, it was more a case of competing for our attention, not that we ever did anything to encourage that attitude.

Case in point: our Cavalier King Charles spaniel Fargo, the Mistress and Dominatrix of Everything. Having rapidly as a pup established her rule over our middle-aged cocker, Fargo welcomed our new Cavalier pup Bubba, by vigorously shaking him with evil intent, causing him to wail uncontrollably until he was eventually soothed and comforted by Mrs. J.

Later, Fargo laid down the law to a new and rambunctious chocolate Lab pup by grabbing and ripping her ear open. We did managed to get the hemorrhage stopped and almost all the blood spray located and cleaned up.

In all the time we had multiple dogs, the most interaction I ever saw was on the rare occasion when one would tolerate another sleeping on the same dog bed.

I’m not discouraging the acquisition of another dog, but it won’t necessarily result in cute Hollywood moments.

*with our present spaniel, Pluto, we’re not sure we want to find out if an additional dog results in well-behaved boon companions, or partners in crime.

Yeah, I think a couple of caveats need to be added to the general proposition (that I agree with) that two are better than one:

1.) As Dinsdale notes two are more expensive. Normally that’s manageable (food et al), but if one or the other develops some significant issue vet bills can get pricey for dogs. If both dogs develop separate treatable but significant medical issues as happened to a friend of mine it can get stupid expensive. You have to be prepared for that, one way or another.

2.) If one has some serious behavioral challenge ( dog aggression, people fearfulness/aggression, super-high prey drive, serious recall issue, etc.), that can be dealt with with training. Usually. But it might be a heck of a lot of work and require a lot more vigilance in one than the other. Some breeds/individuals are harder trials than others, but it can be a crap shoot.

But that said I agree with the consensus. Two are better than one for a variety of reasons if they get along/establish a stable hierarchy, which is more often the case. You’ll generally have happier, more manageable pets if they can wear each other out.

She’s adorbs, TYVM! She’s just always so in motion it’s hard to get a pic of her! Here’s one where she’s all tired out from playing ball, with extra added value from Bear’s gaping maw.

And voila, full face Shoga!

If you’re questionable about a 2nd dog, look into fostering. Some pet shelters are asking for fosters because they can’t have enough onsite volunteers for the dogs because of covid. They’re not able to give enough time and socialization, so they are looking for people to take care of the dogs until they get adopted. You can explain the situation and they can place a compatible dog with you. If the dogs get along, great! And if not, then it can just be a temporary arrangement.

She’s trained you quite well! :wink: She will always want to play with the ball, and the more you respond, the more she’ll want to play. lf this is causing a problem, then you should change the response so she does it less. One idea might be to not have the balls lying around the house. She’s probably getting the idea of fetching the ball by seeing the balls. If there weren’t any balls, then she wouldn’t think about it as much. Have toys around that are more solo activities, like bones, Kongs, etc. which she can interact with on her own.

Your Shoga looks like my Stumpy, IMHO.
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Although I think adopting a second dog could work very well, another option could be adopting a young, energetic cat or kitten, or even a pair of kittens - a lot of rescue organisations want to adopt kittens in pairs.

Some breeds of dog aren’t good with cats - individual dogs of any breed can be - but labs generally are very good with cats. A timid lab is even more likely to be good with them. It would obviously be a good idea to cat-test your dog first, but if she doesn’t try to break off the leash to chase a cat in the park, the odds are very good she’d be fine with a cat you brought into your home.

Some older rescue cats wouldn’t play with the dog like you need, but a young cat or kitten would. Cat-friendly dogs playfight with cats the same as kittens and puppies do, with no injuries on either side, even if one is a full-grown lab and the other is a 5-week-old kitten.

(My own dog was a Jack Russel cross, not usually good with cats; she happened to be fine with my cat in my flat. We also looked after a lab, and she loved everything, like most labs do).

My cat that grew up with a dog learned to play fetch and was generally more doglike than other cats are.

I came to say this.

We always have three dogs and that seems to be the perfect number for our household. When my daughter travels and I dog-sit for them, the one added dog makes our life a bit crazy. When we have only two dogs the place feels empty.

Every household has a magic number. For some it’s zero, for others it’s three. Our friend Ursula in St Martin has 14 rescues usually. When one goes to a new home she can feel their absence and eventually brings one more in. But she insists that 15 would be utter madness.

Never mind - can’t figure out how to share imgur images.

As requested, presenting: Riley!

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Riley is quite the cute puppy and s/he has a nice selection of toys. S/he’s a keeper!

JayRay - I’ve had dogs all my life. And my Wife used to work for the local animal shelter. Just a little back ground.

I have two acres but we life quite remote. Can’t see another house, and we share a property line with national forest.

We did however fence in about 3000 square feet for our dogs. And we put in a doggie door so they can go out when every they please. The generally stay in at night.

We have two dogs. High energy border collie mixes. I think it’s helpful that the dog has a companion. Especially with a doggie door and fenced yard.

They get walks once or twice a day with us. Or just hang outside with us in the summer.

Things to think about… Your Vet bills will go up. As of course food. More poop to pick up as well. But a doggie door to the fenced yard can be a real help. We can leave them alone all day if need be.

Stumpy looks like a mix of heeler and bulldog, what a tank!

And Riley is adorbs–if she’s not a mix she has very unusual coloring for a lab, that bicolor is a recessive trait you don’t see often.

Riley is 3/4 Lab and 1/4 Rottweiler. Her coloring is Rottie; her personality is all Lab.

This one is just spectacular! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: :heart_eyes: :heart_eyes:

Love the feet.