Looters: Shoot on sight?

That;s why law enforcement needs to ignore them.

Diogenes the Cynic

Mods? This is questionable isn’t it?

:confused: Is there a rule against having a sense of right and wrong?

…what was your position on the decision by the US administration and Coalition Commanders in Iraq to essentially allow unrestrained looting in Baghdad immediately after the invasion? Do you disagree with Donald Rumsfeld’s assertions that lootings are the results of “pent up feelings” and that “free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things”? Stuff happens indeed.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/04/11/sprj.irq.pentagon/

You must’ve missed this sentence: *At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street. *

I don’t know about you, but I see an ‘s’ in there.

There is no communication down there, so I don’t think shooting a few of the looters will get the message out. In which case you end up with people focusing on shooting looters when there are people to be saved. There’s no point in drawing these guardsmen and cops into a guerrilla war. As it is I don’t know how they’ll restore order 3-4 months from now. Are you saying you would have trouble deciding between “save people trapped on their roofs” and “save my shit?”

So when a desperate shop owner tries to wrestle away his property from looters, he’s just on his own huh?

We’e in total agreement. Deadly force may have to be used and used by the professionals if and when such a time occurs. I’m just arguing against the people in this thread who seem to believe that any behavior is acceptable by the looters/criminals/murderers simply because of the extraordinary circumstances.

I guess I’d like to see the folks who think shooting at cops is a good idea to maybe put down their stolen guns and perhaps help out with the rescuing of people from their roofs. Call me a dreamer, I guess.

I’ll answer this one: I was very against the looting. Rumsfeld is an idiot.
The looting needs to be stopped, strong efforts need to be made to not use deadly force. But Deadly force may be called for. This sucks, but threatning hospitals sucks more, endangering rescue workers sucks more.

Curious how you left out your quote DtC.
You were insinuating that Stephe96, has no sense of right and wrong.

Nah, he’s right. I don’t. :smiley:

Okay then. Junior mod hat off.

I didn’t “leave out” my quote. When you click the “reply” button, it automatically deletes any internal quotes. Hit the reply box for this post. Notice how it “left out” your own post?

As to your noble defense of Stephe96, are you suggesting that it’s against the rules to disagree with someone else about whether something is right or wrong?

Hmm…

Seems to say: “You don’t.”

In Texas, at night, you can legally shoot a thief. In general, to legally kill someone in most US states, you pretty much have to be in fear of severe bodily harm. There is therefore no legal way to shoot looters for just looting.

If they were going to do that, they wouldn’t have taken the guns in the first place. It’d be nice.

If I think someone is advocating something immoral, am I not allowed to say so? What specific rule do you think I’m violating?

In Texas you aren’t even compelled to flee from a thief/looter. You can stand your ground(day or night) and use deadly force to ensure one’s personal safety. Which includes saving one’s property.

A direct personal insult.