Luigi Mangione something something Morality something something Billionaires

[Babale]

@iiandyiiii

This is my position - It would be a good thing if the next United CEOs took, as a lesson from the shooting, that if they managed their company in a more compassionate way, they’d be less likely to be shot.

Phrased this way, you’re taking it as a given that the assassination already happened, and you’re hoping to make the most of a bad situation. At least, that would be a generous reading.

I don’t see a way to read this prior post in the same way; and I’m leaving in the part where you specify you’re talking about billionaires, so hopefully you don’t accuse me of bad faith quote snipping.

@iiandyiiii

I’m taking about the forces that have shaped society for generations. That’s not the poor, or minorities, or immigrants. That’s the fatcats - billionaires and corporate CEOs. Using bigotry to manipulate and maintain their power and control.

I want them to be afraid - so afraid that they embrace progressive policies because they come to believe the alternative is the guillotine. That means decent society needs to see them for what they are - the enemies of decency. At least until our society is significantly remade for the better.

That’s not “I hope the best can come out of this bad event”, that’s “these people need to be afraid until they change”. And YES, that’s an extreme position.

@iiandyiiii

That’s it. That’s my position (rephrased) from the original post that DT dishonestly, selectively quoted.

Maybe it’s what you meant, but it’s much milder than any way I can reasonably read the prior post. So I don’t buy that DemonTree is bad faith because she read it the same way I do.

@iiandyiiii

Is that an extreme position? You already said you agree with it, unless I’m majorly missing something.

You aren’t sure what you’re missing? What about the whole part of my post that came after:

@Babale

If the only thing I can say is “Yes” or “No”, then sure, I guess the answer is “Yes”, because there only one outcome to weigh and it’s a good one. But in reality, there are a bunch of other factors to consider:

I don’t agree with your statement any more than I agree with “It would be good if billionaires feared for their lives and it made them give me free ice cream”. If I could only answer in one word, I guess I’d have to say that yes, it would be a good thing. But in reality, the outcome of billionaires fearing for their lives would not be that they give me free ice cream. So in reality, I would not agree with the statement.

Nor do I agree with the prior assumption that seems inherent to the whole argument, that currently billionaires are simply ignoring all of society’s rules.