Luke Cage trailer is out

There’s a blink-and-you-missed-it scene in the trailer of someone punching through a concrete wall to get to Claire, and another of Luke going one-on-one with someone in the Apollo Theater, so I’m guessing there’s at least one powered bad guy in this.

Got it - thanks for that context. And hey, anything that involves long, loving shots of Rosario Dawson is okay in my book :wink:

I agree with the casting. He is perfect for the role.

It was made pretty clear from the beginning that the TV shows exist in the same MCU as the movies. In the first episode of Daredevil they mention the attack on NYC in the Avengers.

I looked into it a bit and it seems to straddle the Jessica Jones series along with flashbacks. On wiki: “Loeb said the series was about Luke Cage’s “story and where he came from and, most importantly, where he’s going” after “catching him not quite in the middle, but in the early part of the middle” of his story on Jessica Jones.[49] On this, Colter noted that like the previous Marvel/Netflix series, Luke Cage uses flashbacks, though “in a different way [than the other series] to tell a different part of the story.”[10]”

I figured there would have to be something like that. A superhero dealing with the fact that his strength can’t solve all the problems is an interesting story. But people still want to see superhero battles.

This looks great, but I’m a little concerned about how strong he seems in the trailer (like having a car destroyed by hitting him). I don’t know anything about the comic character, but having someone who is nearly invincible plus super strong puts him in Avengers level. He didn’t seem nearly that strong in Jessica Jones.

Luke Cage is listed by Marvel as being able to lift 25 tons. For comparison Spider-Man is listed at 10 tons. * Jessica Jones doesn’t have a specific limit but is said to be able to lift a car easily.

  • Thor, 100 tons.

Sure, but that doesn’t mean coming in contact with them isn’t a rare event or that their numbers aren’t relatively few in the MCU as opposed to the Marvel Comic Universe; where you can trip over a mutant on your way to Starbucks…(or used to). I think the whole purpose of the Netflix heroes is that they protect average people, who never come in contact with supers and who the Avengers never seem to have time for, even though the people are aware the Avengers exist.

Most people only seem to be aware of the Avengers and not the scores of other powered people that should be running around. So while the doctor who was treating Luke in ‘Jessica Jones’ was aware of supers, it appears he was the first she met in person. That means either they’re not that many of them, they are hiding their powers to avoid attention or both.

For example, Jessica Jones was Luke’s first super and Killgrave was Jessica’s, even though they all knew of the Avengers. So it would seem that unless you’re actively involved in bright, super heroics, coming into contact with another power is rare and if you’re an normal person, it would be even rarer.

At least for now.

But, in the comics, didn’t Luke and Jessica hook up long after his thing with Claire has ended?

I admit to being torn on the subject: from a character perspective, I would rather see Luke Cage with Jessica Jones. From a “which actress do I think is more attractive” perspective, I would much pretty much take Rosario Dawson over the field.

Twenty-five tons? They much have given Cage a power (heh!) upgrade after I stopped reading his title. I still have the OHOTMU which suggests his power level is significantly below Spider-man’s. I also recall reading, at some point, that Jessica’s power level was supposed to be roughly equal to Parker’s.

Where’s my money, honey? Let’s never forget that Luck Cage beat up Doctor Doom because Doom owed him $200.

Yeah, I don’t recall Cage ever being portrayed as that strong, and he didn’t seem to be in Jessica Jones (where she seemed stronger than him). However, comics and the shows share the same flaw - wildly inconsistent about super strength. One issue, Spider-Man would go toe-to-toe with some heavyweight, and the next an ordinary mugger gives him trouble. I recently re-watched Jessica Jones and I’m still bugged by the sequence were the Killgrave support group overpowers her and frees him, accidentally, after we’ve seen her lift a car and shrug off getting shot.

To be fair WRT that, she was trying not to hurt them, and Robin kind of sucker punched her with, like, a board to the back of the head, or whatever it was. We’ve already seen it established in the series that, while she’s much stronger, and heals faster than regular humans, she doesn’t appear to be appreciably more durable.

Back in the 80’s when I was still collecting Marvel put out a limited series of the handbook as a comic. I think that was the first time they tried to quantify how strong each character was. A few like Hulk and Thor were in the 90+ tons range. Cap was around the 2,000 pound range. Cage fell in the middle. I think some of the numbers that marvel has online (where I got the 25 ton number) seem to date back to that comic series. That might be why the number for Jessica Jones is not set. She didn’t exist then. I still have those comics at my mother’s house but I have looked at them in decades. I could go look to see what they originally have Cage listed at but I probably won’t get around to doing it.

Huh. Doctor Doom is usually portrayed as an honourable sort*. I would have expected him to pay up without a quibble.
I recall a Damage Control comic where a (normal, unpowered) fellow went to collect a debt from Doom - had a hell of a time getting through the flunkies, but Doom was pissed that they hadn’t paid up. Wrote a cheque on the spot. Ah, here’s a page about it.

*For given sort of honour, of course…

Yeah, that’s the OHOTMU that I was referring to: Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe… Although, as I thumb through my copy of Issue 8 of the original OHOTMU from 1983 (N-P, Namorita to Pyro), it appears as though they never actually specified how strong Power Man is supposed to be in it. It says that he has “superhuman strength,” and goes into significant detail about how durable he is, but is quite vague about how strong he is.

I also appear to have misplaced my copies of the Deluxe Edition from 1985, so I can’t verify what it says in there.

If it was in 1985 I probably have it somewhere. Here is where I got the 25 ton number. Right from Marvel.

Yeah, I wasn’t really disputing the number, as such. I just feel as though he was retconned relatively recently to be that strong. I’m pretty confident that as recently as the mid-90s (the last time I was really into comics), he was still less strong than Spider-man.

He didn’t usually do a lot of actual lifting, and enough of the people he fought were normal thugs that “pulling the punches” was actually his default, but he’d do things like punch through thick walls (depending on the wall, it would take a while) or rip the occasional steel door.

I guess he’s as strong as they need him to be. When he played the strong guy role in The Avengers and Fantastic Four he needed to be very strong.

Luke Cage was pulling his punches in* Jessica Jones*. You can tell he didn’t want to be saddled with his powers as they invited trouble and he doesn’t like hurting people.

From thistrailer, I assume it’s one of the 36 Chambers?