They wouldn’t? Huh, so what’s this Qik video app installed on my (soon to be replaced) iPhone 3G, the one I paid 99 cents for, last updated about 2 weeks ago, and used on Thursday morning to video two squirrels playing chase-me-chase-me up a tree?
I think I said in the thread when Lion came out that I upgraded pretty much for the ability to finally resize a window from any edge or corner. That only took, what, 27 years?
Heresy!
While I sometimes think of a switch to Cannon (cheaper lenses!) the amount of Nikon crap I own makes that impossible.
Seconded. If you work in a graphic environment (I do) nothing beats Macs.
Maybe you didn’t hear what he said. He read an article. An ARTICLE.
That’s pretty hilarious, considering that in this thread, it’s the PC aficionados who are making out like Mac users are some kind of intellectually inferior sheeple.
Baah.
The overwhelming thing I’ve noticed is that I’d be sitting somewhere minding my own business and somebody’d say something like ‘Dur-hurr, you bought a fucking fruit.’
So it’s now camouflaged with linux Penguins and an ‘Im a PC’ sticker.
Alas, the people I was getting that from were the folks you think would know better…you know…geeks.
So I went back to compiling nmap using GCC and looking at packet dumps from our IDS using Wireshark in X11, while running Cain in a VM and watching A/D hashes float across the wire.
Oh how appropo:
Confusing, consider you later go on to say:
So which is it? You either have legitimate grievances against their products, fine, don’t buy them. Or you hate the people who buy them, while simultaneously accusing them of all having a smug superiority.
I’ve never had a battery die in an iPhone, and I’ve had them since the 3G came out. Have you had to replace the battery? Or are you just complaining about the inevitable eventuality that you’ve so far not had to deal with?
Someone has already addressed this for you, mainly that there are apps available that allow this to work.
You can buy iPhone compatible chargers at every major retailer, this is false.
I don’t even understand this statement. You’re pissed that they make upgrades to their products so they can sell more of them? Seriously? This is retarded reasoning.
Being a Mac convert, I have to say I don’t see this at all. Even when I used PCs I didn’t see this at all from people. I’m sure there is a small cohort of people who buy stuff to seem popular, big shocker there. You seem to be operating under the assumption that conspicuous consumption ONLY affects Apple customers, and then later admit that you don’t really hate all the products that much, you just hate the “smugness” of their consumers. How stupid.
What’s wrong with them?
If by “newer” you mean released in the last five years.
The first version of Boot Camp was released on April 5th 2006, almost five and a half years ago. Even then it could run on macs that were already released. The first Intel Macs came out January 10th 2006, so I’m guessing all Macs since that one were capable of running Boot Camp, although I could be wrong.
So yes, newer Macs. Obviously.
Well, ignoring the error you made in saying that you have to buy an Apple branded one, as that was covered elsewhere:
My take on this is a historical thing. It wasn’t that long ago that EVERY mobile phone manufacturer had their own power cord. Hell, the power cord would change between models of the same brand. I remember in Clas Ohlsson, a large electronics/household shop here, that there’d a be a wall covered in different cords for different phones. A whole section for Nokia, another for Sony Ericsson and whatnot.
At this time Apple didn’t sell a phone, but they did sell the iPod and that had a proprietary cord, known as the 30 pin dock connector. One of the reasons for this was that Apple supported both USB and Firewire connections to your iPod. Hell, you used to be able to boot a Mac from an iPod! So they had a special connector to support both of these. When you bought an iPod you got (IIRC) two cable but both connected to the same place on the iPod.
However, over the years Apple decided to drop Firewire support but instead of fragmenting things they decided to stick with the 30 pin dock connector. And that connector supports iPhones, iPod and iPads. I’ve got all three (although the iPod is generally unused now) and use just the one cable.
But yes, the world has moved on and (finally) mobile devices manufacturers have decided to go with USB (although there are two types of small USB port - the mini and micro - and it can be hit or miss which of those your device will take). There’s a very good argument that Apple should also move on, but there is still the burning issue of all those millions of iPods, iPhones and iPads on the old connector. Like it or not, Apple cares about how many cables you have hanging off your computer and wants that reduced. So they’ve stuck it out. Incorrectly, in my opinion, but stuck it out they have.
BY the way, this may all change because of the EU. There is a directive within the EU that mobile phones should use the same connector and to comply with this Apple will have to provide some way of doing it, although there has been rumours that they will simply provide and adapter for mini (or micro) USB to the 30 pin dock connector. I hope they don’t.
So there you go. There once was a very, very good reason for the 30 pin dock connector, but that reason isn’t quite valid so much anymore. But change is difficult when there’s a LOT of devices out there and you really care about ports and cables (and seriously they do, for example Apple are weirdly proud of how all the ports on a MacBook Pro are on one side of the machine. Nothing on the back and just the DVD drive on the right).
They permitted Apple to come out with a dongle: http://www.google.com/reader/view/#search/Apple%20iPhone%20usb/4
The 30 pin dock connector ALSO carries video out and Command and Control, letting you do things like leave the device in the glove box of your car, and have one cable that does everything, rather than a cable that charges, another that syncs, and a third to plug into your boom box.
Nothing, I just gave my oldest laptop away to one of them. It didn’t have enough RAM for WoW (which btw runs on Macs) or for CivIV, but it’s perfectly fine for what he needs.
I haven’t bought a Mac because I do tend to buy computers with alarming frequency - it’s my one large, reocurring, not-staying-alive-related expenses; I use them for work, but not every computer I buy is for work and what I’d need for work is less than what I like to have for gaming. But they’re very nice machines, if I wasn’t a computashopaholic I’d love me one.
This is such a surreal post. I mean, it looks like it’s from 1987 or something. Apple users are kids in inner city schools, like the one I taught in about 15 years ago (granted it was mostly Apple IIe’s but I had a bunch of Performa 5200s), grandparents, teachers, graphic designers, and yes, hipsters who wear skinny jeans, drink soy lattes, and smoke Lucky Strikes.
I saw a complete douchebag driving a car just like mine the other day. I guess I’ll need to buy another car so I don’t catch any of the smug. :rolleyes:
I run Windows using VMWare on my Mac, and I even have a PowerMac 7300 that was PC compatible. I think most users want a stable, usable OS, to hell with the stereotype of what the users might be.
I’ll say, people tend to make more mistakes when given more freedom. Most Windows problems come from user error and they didn’t even know it. I’m guessing Macs are set up to give users only what they need and also in a smooth (OS) way. Even then, you can still get deep into Snow Leopard and what not.
I’m sure some spokesperson for Mac has revealed why they are successful. Obviously Macs aren’t for the hardcore computer users but even the hardcore users would like to own a Mac… And using ratios, how many hardcore users are there to casual users?
Also, Mac is a brand as Dell & Toshiba is a brand. A better question would be to compare the operating systems which there are millions of comparisons the web. On the hardware end, what can’t be upgraded?
Macs are the Corvettes as Dells are the Cavaliers. Swapping the motors may be easier in the Cavalier but the Corvette was built to reduce the need to have to replace the motor. Something like that anyway…
The problem is that folks are debating two entirely different things.
Person A is debating how they like an experience.
Person B is debating how they save so much money by buying different hardware.
This has always been the case, it will always BE the case. The debate will never end.
The very statement “Obviously Macs aren’t for the hardcore computer users but even the hardcore users would like to own a Mac” shows a level of ignorance.
I AM a Hardcore user. I compile code, I run VM’s, I interpret data on the wire, I ‘grep’ GIGS of logs for security anomalies.
I have a FLEET of machines at my disposal, of all flavors.
When I’m sitting in front of a keyboard, working interactively, I prefer Mac.
It is IDENTICAL in nature to Snap-On tools. You can buy a socket set for $6.99 at Harbor freight, you can pay $40 for a Sears Craftsman set, or you can drop $300 for Snap-on.
Do they all turn a socket? Yup (until the cheapie breaks). Do the have a lifetime warrantee? Yup. (Ever the HF tool!). Are there people that find value in using Snap-On tools? Absolutely. Might they have Craftsman tools at home? (Heresy…but yup.)
More choice has its advantages and disadvantages. I recently bought a GPS unit for driving. There are TOO MANY CHOICES! It was crazy the number of choices there are and difficult to discern what the differences are between the models. I found the experience frustrating and needlessly complex.
With a mac there are fewer choices but the idea is to have the choices hit the target audience without ambiguity. “dumbing it down” is actually a good thing in my opinion.
You indeed recall correctly. You could sync with USB starting with the 3rd generation but could only charge by FireWire. The 4th generation (which I believe is the first one to really take off with iTunes becoming available on Windows) came with both a FireWire and a USB cord (and a AC adapter for the FireWire) and could sync and charge off either. It was better to use FireWire and I actually installed a FireWire card in my Dell just for the iPod. You can still charge an iPod Classic off FireWire and I still use the adapter and FireWire cable I got seven years ago.
I just tried it on the iMac in front of me. It took exactly one click to get to a UNIX prompt. Look, here’s a directory listing (the “l” and “s” keys were two more finger movements):
Last login: Sun Oct 2 19:18:01 on console
Cetus:~ napier$ ls
Desktop Downloads Movies Pictures Sites
Documents Library Music Public
Cetus:~ napier$
You really haven’t seen this? Blind these days? To give you an example, look at the cases for sale for the iPhone. Almost everyone has a opening in the back of the case to “show off” the Apple logo. Look at cars while in traffic, notice any with a Apple sticker on the back. Why in the world does anyone find it necessary to advertise the computer they use on their car? Because buying an Apple for many isn’t about the hardware, it is about the image. Have you ever seen an Apple commercial? The Apple is represented as a hip young person, while the PC is represented as a stuffy suit wearing middle aged man. (marketing genius btw), but it does demonstrate style is what many Apple users find important.
I couldn’t care less what computer you want to use. However I have experienced many times the smugness of Apple users telling me how much better their piece of fruit is than my PC. This happens in real life, if you say it doesn’t you need to get out more. I see it on internet forums, the smugness is real and rears its head anytime this debate comes up. No, I don’t particularly care for Apple users. I find them a unique group that values style of substance. I see them as willing to spend tons more money for a product that will do nothing more than the one costing $100’s if not thousands of dollars less. When you point it out, you get the typical responses the main one being how Macs are so much better at graphic work, only to find out that 99 out of 100 don’t do the very work they claim their computer is superior at.
I can tell from your response that you are die hard Apple user and no amount of reasoning on my part will change your opinion. We will have to agree to dis-agree. I will go back to browsing the SD on my $600 PC laptop and smile knowing that the $1200 or so dollars I saved by buying a PC over a Mac is still in my bank account and my internet experience is as good as yours is, even though you are on the “superior” machine.