Mad-Men: 6.08 "The Crash" (open spoilers)

Right. But the last episode ended with them having merged to handle Chevy and the RFK assassination, which puts it at June 6, or exactly the three-month mark. In this episode, we hear that they’ve been working on Chevy for six to seven weeks. There’s a time-slip in there somewhere.

ETA: I left the above impossibly bad dangling modifier just for kicks. I’m not really proposing that Sirhan was a SCDPCGC staffer.

I doubt it. I’d be surprised if she lives past her early twenties.

I don’t think she’s in that bad a position. For how screwed up her home life is, she’s surprisingly level-headed.

Why? Anybody can die early, but there’s nothing in her life so far to extrapolate this from. She’s lived a normal existence for girls like her, which puts her into the top tenth of privilege in our society at that time.

People keep talking about her becoming a hippy or joining the Manson family but that can’t be serious. Sally’s never rebelled a day in her life. There’s never been a single minute that indicates that she would leave her life of luxury and middle-class comfort. Which was true for about 99% of girls like her. And true for at least 90% of the rest.

Eh, I don’t even know if her home life is that screwed up. She’s living in a large house with two parents. Her (step)father makes good money so she’s not worried about where her next meal is coming from. Henry Francis seems to legitimately care for the children. Betty might not be an awesome mom but she isn’t beating them or anything. Don’s hardly an involved parent but Sally wouldn’t be the first kid to survive biweekly visitation with a divorced father who has largely moved on with a new wife who tries too hard to be cool for the kids.

Sally’s frankly a bit of a pill, as most kids are wont to be at that age. But her conditions would be enviable to a whole lot of other kids.

I watched it a second time tonight. A few clarifications:

She was in a Johnny Walker advert near the end. Not in the show; a real ad!

Yes, it was one of the two young copywriters they acquired from CGC. The other one was still playing with Peggy and Beard-man and Ginsberg.
Also, best line of the night was the very last one: “Whenever we get a car, this place turns into a whorehouse.”

And WHAT an ad!! :cool:

I remarked to the spouse that Roger Sterling had car commercials but Don Draper got an airline.

Peggy has… umm.. headache pills?

They’ve run that ad during every episode this season.

Yes. Sally’s friend (?) was the one who ran away from home when she didn’t get into Juilliard. I’m sure Sally will have an interesting life but I don’t see her as a future burnout.

Her mother is a piece of work? Yeah, she’s known that for many years now. Her father isn’t always there for her? He never was–and most of that time “away” in the early years, he really was working. Just like all the Dads in the neighborhood. But she knows that he still loves her, in his way. Henry is definitely a good guy.

Otherwise, Sally’s very bright & has probably been getting a pretty good education. I bet Don’s got some college money salted away–if the scholarship doesn’t come through.

The Draper kids’ stepparents are both improvements over their real parent of the same gender. While Megan is more of a glamorous young aunt figure than a maternal one she does seem to genuinely care about the kids, and Henry’s probably the most concerned parent of the four. If everybody divorced and Henry married Megan and they took the kids (and Betty and Don would probably let them) it’d be happily ever after for them for a while.

I wonder if it’s very common for kids to prefer a stepparent to than to any of their bio parents.

Wait didn’t Don get the kid tickets to the Beatles? That automatically makes up for at least a decade of lousy parenting. :slight_smile:

Not according to every advice columnist in the world.

Well, the ones who ARE contented aren’t writing in to advice columnists.

I don’t see anything positive going on between Henry and the kids. He is a cold fish who barely acknowledges their existence and Sally and Bobby have repeatedly shown strong (Sally) to mild (Bobby) disdain for him. He only looks good compared to Betty. Being a lesser of evils doesn’t make you good.

If I had the Betty/Henry rape squad plotting against me, I’d run away too…

This was a weird episode but there were parts I liked very much, even the flashbacks. (And how uncomfortable and awkward was Dick during Amy’s “seduction” – really, rape? Ugh, that was unnerving.) Abigail calling him trash and beating him viciously is pretty much what Don does all the time to himself, so this was fairly well-trodden territory, but still, I think he needed this wake-up call. God, am I hoping we leave this Sylvia plot behind already. She was his most boring lover yet and neither the writers nor the actress did a thing to convince me of why Don was so head-over-heels needy for her. What a wet fish of a seductress. I know Linda Cardellini has some geek cred but she was a total dullard with zero personality.

I agree with you on most things in your post, but not this. She’s smoked a cigarette, she ran off via train to NYC by herself to visit Don when she was supposed to be walking home, she sneaked off to be with a boy she knew her mother disliked (twice–first when she and Glenn would meet near that old shed, then a year or two later when she spent the day with him at the museum when she was supposed to be staying at Don’s apartment). I mean, I’m not saying these acts are the equivalent of burning your bra and giving your mother the finger while riding off on some hippie’s Harley, but for such a young girl, and such a generally protected one, they’re rebellions.

Wow, I generally agree with you during these ep threads, but here I could not possibly disagree more. Don would never ever ever let his kids go like that. He’s scummy about a lot of things and negligent in several areas–though not hugely more so than many fathers of that era–but he would not let non-relatives raise his kids. I don’t know what would make anyone think that. Betty wouldn’t do it just because she would feel it’s the wrong thing to do. (Also, she seems to genuinely love Gene.)

Also, dude, how on earth could you think for a second that that woman was Carla? Not only a) do they look nothing alike, but b) dignified Carla would never in a million years do that, c) Sally and Bobby would recognize Carla, and d) did I say that Carla would never do that? And e) because I can’t stress this enough, that the actresses look NOTHING alike? Then you postulate that Adam wasn’t really Don’s brother after we’ve seen/heard it referenced multiple times… dayum, did you have a session with Dr. Feelgood yourself while watching? :smiley: (Actually I personally kept calling him Dr. Robert.)

I dislike Henry as well, but I’d have to say his instincts are better than Betty’s; he was genuinely concerned when Betty just let Carla go without a qualm.

BTW, Peggy didn’t partake in the shots, just to clarify something someone said upthread: she was (somewhat) drunk, according to lovely non-partaking Ginsburg. Speaking of whom, I do adore that character and wish he’d get a good storyline at some point.

The brief moment we saw of Pete, he was again showing his better side by acting respectful toward Frank’s death. He’s so well-written; scummy one minute, conscientious the next, and yet this dichotomy in his personality is always treated believably, because he’s scummy and conscientious in perfectly consistent ways, characterization-wise.

Also, because it cannot be said enough: Ken. Tapdancing.

One question: I know the “coming next weeks” are Weiner’s purposeful “fuck you for making me include them, AMC,” and thus are always nonsense, but was I having my own weird druggie deja vu or did they repeat halfway in?

To her way of thinking, she’s only whoring to feed the two ungrateful children she’s been saddled with. If it weren’t for them, she’d be remarried to someone respectable or something.

Not only were the kids watching The Prisoner, but Sally was reading Rosemary’s Baby. Clearly she is the Devil’s child, and Don Draper is Satan himself…

I have to say, I really like Cutler. He’s a nice bizarro twin for Sterling.