My favorite line from last night:
“NOT GREAT, BOB!”
I liked
“Have you had a performance review yet?”
“Yes! It was…”
“Yeah, I don’t give a shit.”
In Don’s defense, I didn’t see his recent offenses as being nearly as great as when Roger sat on the fact that Lucky Strike had pulled out or tried to deliberately sabotage the Yamaha account due to his hatred of the Japanese.
Last season, I didn’t like Megan. I thought she reacted to Don’s crap in a way that was really infantile. This season, she’s a lot less annoying. That said, I wouldn’t mind it at all if she didn’t show up next season. Her storyline seems to be pretty much done.
Wasn’t that her mother’s name (Beth Francis)?
Her mom’s name is Betty. But Sally’s middle name is Beth, we saw it on the letter she got about giving her witness statement.
I’d say throwing away Jaguar well exceeded not saying Lucky Strikes pulled (already a done deal) or his Honda (wasn’t it Honda? They thought getting the scooter/motorcycle would help them get in with the car division) behavior which was pretty well shut down by Bert.
Roger getting a meeting in with Chevy and that covering for Jaguar was just plain luck. Had Roger been sleeping with a different girl, SCDP would have been seriously hurt by losing Jaguar.
I thought “Betty” was short for “Elizabeth.”
I took it was a delayed reaction to Ted’s line about Don letting the good man inside him out. Don WANTS to be a good man, but he knows he isn’t. For once in his life he put someone else’s needs ahead of his own desires.
I am only a watcher of the show so I can’t recall if the elevator foreboding from last season was ever finished off, but my impression was that the empty elevator shaft finally got its payoff in last night’s finale. I think Don as we know him “died” with the final push being into the elevator by a former competitor and Duck. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but I thought the “Going down?” was too obvious and was only the first layer of the meaning.
I thought the guy who ran the brothel had a good line, “I’d tell you go to hell, but I never want to see you again!”
And the rest of us are…?
The whorehouse presentation was the most devastatingly sick and sad presentation the Hershey execs or anyone will ever hear.
Let’s show a teenage boy rifling through johns clothes at a whorehouse for money and valuable shit to earn a Hershey bar from the whore with a heart of gold so he can feel like a normal kid. America will love it!
Not to mention the other 29 biggest agencies who no doubt heard of the “Don Draper whorehouse pitch” that sent the Hershey guys walking out of the building with their jaws on the floor and worried about the sanity of Don Draper and SC&P in general.
It may have been cleansing for Don, but the rest of Madison Ave wants to take a shower.
Why are you under the impressionist that was a pitch? It wasn’t. Don actually says it wasn’t.
It was the opposite. He basically told them they didn’t need advertising.
It wasn’t a pitch. It was Don baring his soul, desperately trying to find an authentic moment and realizing that no one cares.
I was wondering about that. How do you sell an icon like Hershey’s chocolate or Coca-Cola? Virtually everyone in America has warm, fuzzy feelings about these brands, so how do you sell them? (When I’m watching Mad Men, I like to think about how I’d sell the brands presented.)
I understand that. You understand that. The audience understands that.
But Hershey didn’t. The partners didn’t.
That’s why it was the final straw after a year full of shit from him and they told him to take some time off.
Try to see it from the clients and partners point of view. It was seriously a mess.
As I said - It may have been cleansing for Don, but the rest of Madison Ave wants to take a shower.
Of course. Your commented suggested you didn’t see it that way, so I and the previous poster were clarifying.
No, I was just pointing out to the posters who thought that his whorehouse story wasn’t that big of a deal.
It was to Hershey and the partners. They had no idea why or what to think.
So when the clients left it was a huge deal to the agency. So much so that he is out on his ass. They didn’t even ask for an explanation. Just go!
Exactly. As the audience, we already know all of Don’s secrets, wity Weiner dropping little morsels of information a little at a time over the course of the series. Don vomited like three season’s worth of exposition all over the table at that Hershey’s meeting.
Don, as a partner, can’t be fired. His ownership stake stays. But Don, as an employee, can be fired or suspended, which seems to be what happened. He’ll still get his share of the profits, but possibly not his salary (which, as a partner, is probably trivial anyway).
Pete, going to LA? A man who can’t drive in NYC can get along just fine. But a man who can’t drive in LA? He might as well be a paraplegic! He won’t last a week out there.
To me, the best part of the entire episode was the very end. Sally’s look at Don outside the whorehouse, and Don’s look back at her. She may not have known that it was a brothel, but she suddenly knew that her father’s background was very, very different from anything she’s ever known, and she suddenly knew that she couldn’t judge him in the way that she has been. And he, silently, acknowledges that he knows that she knows it. I thought that silent exchange was brilliant, both from a writing perspective and an acting perspective. Also LOVED the ending song (Looked at life from both sides now).