I thought Bert /Don conversation was just ugly , showing how much Bert was hurt by Dons fall.
I think that this trip to visit “Marigold” is going to force Roger to recognize how ridiculous his own life has become. His daughter sleeping around was the final straw of a “Oh my God, she really is turning into me” moment which is why he turned so cold on the situation in the morning. I predict we’ll see Roger straighten out a bit going forward.
When the two of them fell into the mud hole I thought for sure it was going to be that lame fucking trope where it turns into a mud fight where they end up laughing and hugging at the end. I’m very glad that Roger ended up dejected instead but in this case he was right. Tough shit that the poor little rich girl is depressed because she’s bored of it all and daddy worked too much. She has a son and she is responsible for him. She’ll be calling daddy soon enough to bail her out again.
That line was a gem. Usually Roger gets the best lines, but this time it was Joan.
Let me put that job up there with the list of Jobs That Would Make Me Put A Bullet In My Head: 25 pitches by the end of the day, X2? Then another 25 from the one guy because Lou likes to sneak up on the angle? Seventy-five ideas to wade through.
I’d last about half a day.
And I chuckled picturing my secretary entertaining my kid all day by chasing each other through the office. Yeah, that would happen.
They’re just taglines though at least. So it’s just brainstorming and writing it down. They don’t have to come up with that many pitches, just the “Don’t leave home without it’s” and “Beef, it’s what for dinner’s”.
No, it took him an hour to go from “I’ll just sit around while they realize how much they’ve missed me and start carrying me around on a litter again” to “Shit, they really don’t want me here and if I’m going to stick I’ll have to climb my way back up.”
Sorry about the Cubby Bears. I’ve seen them in Wrigley 5 times and they’ve lost every one
That being said, The Mets are my team and I think we have seen Don’s Mets pennant previously?
Also, I (not sure) think Freddie was a Mets fan back before Tom Seaver.
As far as upstate New York around Bethel/Woodstock - it’s all like 90 minutes even in that car Roger was driving. You don’t have to take the NYS thru-way, which as Arlo famously said “closed man…far out!”
WTF was up with Don’s drunken rant against the computer installer dude? Did I miss something, or was he just so loaded he was lashing out for no reason?
I was going to ask about that… Did he basically call that guy the devil?
And was the Burger Chef guy the nerd “scientist” from the Walking Dead
Wasn’t the computer guy on Justified? The backyard fighter?
Let’s sum up. Don thinks he’s hit bottom and has to straighten himself out… again. Roger is forced to face up to the fact that he was a lousy father… again. Pete shows that he’s doing all the heavy lifting at the agency… again. Lou has no purpose except to be evil… again. Peggy finds out she has no clue about the power games at the agency… again.
You can argue that the show isn’t about people growing and changing, it’s about how people don’t really change. I think I’ve made that argument myself.
I don’t remember the show being this repetitive in previous seasons, though. People may not have changed but we learned new and deeper insights into their lives. It’s not happening now. All we’re getting are the previously subtle metaphors spelled out.
The computer is taking over creative’s space (Don’s domain) and substituting technology for people. Don is upset about that, and lashed out about it when he got loaded and was denied the right to bring in this client, so it’s a double blow.
I’m pretty sure Avon’s been mentioned, and I doubt Joan would’ve been given other accounts & made an account executive if she botched Avon up (especially after going around Pete’s back & tricking Peggy). It’s a little weird that Ken is now technically her boss when she’s a (a very junior) partner and he isn’t. It’s very weird that she’s apparently the firm’s only account executive in NYC (Bob’s in Detroit & Pete’s in LA).
He was loaded and lashing out at the computer guy because he’s bitter Burt shot down his attempt at bringing in new business, and he sees the computer as part of a future he neither understands or is part off. Accusing the guy of being the Devil was pretty harsh though.
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Don isn’t just having trouble adapting; his immediate reaction to actually being expected to follow any of the rules he just agreed last episode was to throw a hissy fit and break all of them on his first day back. That does not bode well for Don. What happens the first time he’s put in front of clients with a script Peggy or Lou wrote?
Bert turning down the IBM lead was just silly. I don’t know any businessman who’d turn down a lead like that. I mean, what’s the point of bringing Don back if they’re going to handcuff him from working deals?
Marigold was unrecognizable. The hippy lifestyle becomes her.
I remember Burger Chef!
I thought someone said it had been three weeks. I think it was the humiliation and the rejection of his idea that pushed him to the edge.
I don’t think the lead was for IBM, but for LeaseTech, the (much) smaller company that’s doing their computer install, They are installing an IBM computer but I think LeaseTech is really in the business of selling a service contract of some sort.
Still, Bert seemed to dismiss it* just because* the idea came from Don, as if he was opposed to allowing Don ANY measure of success, best interests of the firm be damned.
Joan definitely has Avon. Was rewatching the premiere and when Ken calls Joan in, she is holding the file for Avon and asks Ken “Is this Avon related or did you need someone to hand you a tissue?” So I just missed it before.
As I mentioned in the thread for that episode as well, Ken laments having no staff but when Joan walks up to his office, he’s yelling at four people in his office. So there must be some accounts guys? This whole season is sort of confusing from an office angle.
Yeah, Bert was going out of his way to tell Don “nobody likes you.” He did a much better job of it than Peggy did last episode (no surprise).
Though I’ve been as fed up with Don’s hijinks as anyone at SCP, I was kind of waiting for Don to point out that despite whatever humiliating low-level position they put him in he’s still a partner. And probably with a significant amount of the decision power, if he can get Roger on his side… which is entirely likely. They seem to be trying to keep him out of partner meetings, yet none of the conditions of his returns limited his partnership rights (other than that dodgy “forfeit all partnership shares” rider).
Lame was a big Mets fan.
Her second job was office manager, which she have to Dawn.
Yeah, it was an odd place. The name of the place was “Burger Chef,” spelled the regular way, but all the burgers had names like “Big Shef,” with an “S.”
Their big selling point in the '70s was that you could order your burger “with” (lettuce, tomato, onion, etc.) or “without” and then go to the FixinsBar.