Mad-Men: 7.04 "The Monolith" (open spoilers)

I knew that, I was wondering about her account beyond the shoe guy. Which was Avon.

No matter how many people you have working in your department, it’s never enough when business is good. Ken was likely mostly complaining of a lack of support staff, not AE’s.

Me too. He had a partner, too (Burger Chef & Jeff).

I also remember H. Salt Fish & Chips, which was mentioned as well. Anyone else remember the chain?
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ETA: Apparently H. Salt is alive and well in California.

They are at least two in Sacramento, but we’re pretty sure one of them is front for something shady.

Burger Chef was bought out by Hardees. There’s one two blocks from here that’s been there at least 45 years, first as a Burger Chef, then as Hardees.

Yeah, they definitely said that Don had been holed up in his office for three weeks, doing nothing because no one knew what to do with him.

I think Cutler is definitely waiting (and hoping) for a Don implosion, but if not, he’s fine with Don doing some grunt work. He’s playing the long game–he’s already won over Bert, Joan, and Harry. Roger and Don are the last drunken speed bumps on his way to reconstituting Cutler, Gleason & Chaough.

The one over on Auburn?

Oh, I don’t know about that one. I was thinking of the one downtown at 16th and E Streets. The other one I know of is in Land Park. It looks Ok.

I’m from Southern California. I don’t have any memory of Burger Chef but I do remember H. Salt. I don’t think I ever went to one but I remember the jingle from the commercials.

“H. Salt Fish and Chips because you sure love your fish”

I had no idea that they were still around.

Also, Roger made a comment about Don behaving himself: “He’s been in his cave, and he hasn’t bashed another ape’s head in.” And Lloyd, the LeaseTech guy, looked simian.

Rhiannon, that’s funny, because I’ve long thought that the one in the San Fernando Valley was a front for something. It’s so hard to get in and out of by car, and the food is nothing special.

One line surprised me a bit. Roger’s daughter said something like “Do you think they’ll ever put a man up there?” (on the moon). By April 1969, wouldn’t people be commenting more specifically on the upcoming moon launch?

Cooper and Joan’s obstinacy toward Don is really not making sense to me.

Do we think Lou assigned Peggy the lead role as part of a larger conspiracy among the partners?

I was surprised Don reacted the way he did rather than first make sure it wasn’t a rogue move by Lou or a misunderstanding by Peggy.

… but I was totally wrong about how Don would handle coming back in the first place so what do I know!

My bold.

I think Joan got it right. No one considers Peggy a serious player in this drama.

I think this is right. Lou very understandably fobbed it off on Peggy because he didn’t want to deal with Don and is probably a bit scared of Don flying off the handle. Did you see that gif of Don staring daggers at Peggy when she’s assigning him the tags? I wouldn’t want that anywhere near me, either.

I think Lou didn’t want to work with Don so shuffled the project off to Peggy with the added knife twist of putting Don under her. Lou didn’t give a crap about Peggy personally, he’s just trying to keep Don under heel and preserve his (Lou’s) place in the company where he probably still feels threatened. The most he did for Peggy was try to buy her loyalty. And by making Peggy the lead, he can have Peggy report to him and avoid having to deal directly with Don. Peggy’s already been a push-over for Lou, Don would likely make an argument in the meetings.

I don’t think Lou was conspiring with the other partners so much as the other partners don’t care what Lou does with Don. Aside from Roger, none are thrilled to have him back or know what to do with him and feel that they got pushed into his return. So if Lou wants to put Don under Peggy, they don’t care but they weren’t directly part of that process.

Good article in the LA Times.

*As mentioned elsewhere, 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey

“I would say she’s brainwashed but there’s nothing there to wash”

“These people are lost, and on drugs, and have venereal diseases” – Mona.

I thought these quotes were awesome too.

I would like to have seen the hippie colony be not quite so filthy and disgusting. It would have been interesting if the commune could have been neat and clean and simple and completely out of touch with reality along with the drugs and free sex. Then it would have been easier to see why she wanted to live there.

Also, I didn’t think the position “my kid won’t miss me because you were never around, Dad” rang true one single bit. If anything, kids who were neglected tend to overcompensate by wanting to be on the spot. It would have made more plot sense for her to bring Ellery to the commune and Roger and Mona wanting to get him back to the city and civilization.

I loved my IBM Selectric typewriter. Mine was brick red. It had the long carriage, not the short one like the one Don pitched (hehe) at the window.

Lou didn’t assign Peggy to the account, the partners did. Now Lou agreed, but he did so before Roger even brought up Don (or was it someone else). I think Weiner is making sure he doesn’t make Lou into some sort of cartoon character.