
Mr. Nylock was right the first time. The line from Hamlet is “to the manner born.” The title of the TV show “To the Manor Born” was a pun.
Well whack me upside the head with the stupid stick. Fifty-three trips around the Sun and I never knew that. What does it mean?
It means he has an innate understanding of whatever custom, tradition, expectation, attitude, etc., is at issue because he was born into it. “Manner” meaning “how one behaves.” It need not refer only to the manner of the nobility, which is what “manor” would be restricted to.
How do we know Shakespeare wasn’t just spelling “manor” the way he wanted, like everybody else back then did? :dubious:
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It’s clear in context that’s he’s talking about custom, not nobility.
And why would you assume that they were homophones?
And not one scholar has ever noticed that?
Here’s the real story:
Can you spell “facetious”? I knew you could! 
And why would you assume that they were homophones?
Uhhhhh … because they are? :dubious: ![]()
To the throatwarbler mangrove born.
Uhhhhh … because they are? :dubious:
man-ner
man-nor
Doesn’t seem like it.
Uhhhhh … because they are? :dubious:
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You do understand that Shakespeare pronounced things differently than we do, right? And a lot of things that rhyme to us didn’t rhyme to him and vice-versa.
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The very fact that the two words are spelled with different endings should indicate that there’s at least a chance that at some point they were pronounced differently.
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I’m pretty sure Shakespeare scholars would have looked into this by now and told us definitively that when he wrote “manner,” he meant “manor.”
that horrible childhood.
Don’s childhood was a nightmare by any standard, but it’s worth noting that bad parenting of one sort or another is pretty much universal on this show.
OMG! How did this thread ever get 195 posts? I thought this thread was limited to one episode?
Anyway, regardless, I figured it would be silly to start a new thread just to tell you all about this link.
23 Top Show Runners Discuss how They’d End Mad Men.
23 Top Showrunners on How They’d End ‘Mad Men,’ Utilize Cookie Lyon and Revive their Favorite Characters – The Hollywood Reporter
ETA: I hope the above link has not already been posted in this humungous thread.
Here’s another one:
The third one is REALLY intriguing…
I rather like the Coca-Cola theory. I remember thinking about the commercial in the one of the early seasons someone talks about the Port Huron statement. And they have set it up as a possibility in the meeting with the McCann CEO.
Don’s childhood was a nightmare by any standard, but it’s worth noting that bad parenting of one sort or another is pretty much universal on this show.
Yes, that’s true (and is, arguably, a major theme of the show).
… It seems as if one thing ends up consistently happening in the series - people do not fare well outside of the pond they were raised in.
There has been a lot of emphasis, consistently throughout the series, on Pete Campbell’s desirability as a business asset because of the accident of his birth (being from an old New York family). And, of course, on Don’s lack of such ‘credentials’.
In some sense, the show is a commentary on the very lack of social mobility that has, today, become a major concern for some observers of US socio-economic trends.
I predict no one goes out a window.
The opening credits have never seemed like a suicide to me- not with the character landing comfortable and relaxed on a couch at the end.
It’s not only that the credits-guy ends up on a couch—it’s that the credits guy never goes near a window.
He’s standing in the middle of an office, then the office starts falling around him.
He never jumps. (Yet so many remember and describe the credits as ‘guy goes out window’…it’s like a Rorschach test.)