Oh, and you think we’ve been filing tax returns in America for 239 years? Gosh, tell me more about history.
OK, so…you were utterly and completely wrong in your claim that, and I quote:
“a person to go along with saying they’re born in Kenya and only later when it’s convenient (and they’re a presidential candidate) to say they weren’t.”
Just completely wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Uh, yeah, I do. Like many Americans. Which state were you born in?
Do you know what a short form birth certificate is?
Why should anyone care how interested you are? What matters is how interested the AMerican people are. And they’re pretty fucking interested.
Oh, I’m much better than the people I criticize. For example, I know what a short form birth certificate is. I know that Obama didn’t ever claim to have been born in Kenya. I know that Americans haven’t filed tax returns for the last 239 years. Basically, I’m not ignorant. That makes me better.
You tell me. You apparently have a better grasp of the history of the United States. When did we first start paying taxes, and how does that jibe with what I said?
I don’t see where I was wrong. When he’s selling a book he doesn’t correct the surrogates that say he born in Kenya. When he’s running president, he does.
Convenient, in the absence of contradictory evidence. If you have any, please enlighten me. I’m always up for learning.
Iowa. You?
I do. Do you? Go ahead and explain. I doubt it’s any different than what I said above. One’s abbreviated and the other isn’t.
The American people were interested in Obama’s birth certificate. No? Why is now different than then?
Actually, you’re not. You’re the exact same as those you criticize. Only you (or some on your side) take it to the extreme that you’re morally just and intellectually superior. To those of us who are independent (which I am) it doesn’t make any side better or worse. It’s all the same.
Your number of 239 puts the date at 1778, which no American would ever claim as being the founding date of the country: it’s either 1776 (241 years) or 1789 (228 years). Some, not thinking about it, might answer 1783 (end of Rev War, 234 years). No one would say 1778.
Thanks for sharing. Maybe we’ll rethink the custom. But this time we need to see the returns. It looks like this time might be under subpoena, anyway so no need for us to fight here…
How the hell do you come up with the false equivalency that not legitimizing charges in a book is the same as ‘going along with’ the birther fantasies?
You want to believe it, is all. Absolutely no basis in fact.
It could be more it could be less. We could argue that it started long before we declared our independence (the Boston tea part and all that). It could be argued that it’s shorter.
Does it really make a difference in what I was getting at?
You’re “basic facts” (which I’m curious what you mean by that) are different than others “basic facts”, if I’m understanding your meaning correctly.
The fact that you’re side takes the morally authority and intellectually superiority side of things, in my opinion, makes you look more foolish than the other side.
So do you, right? There’s no bases in fact that Trump has lied, misled, or exaggerated his tax returns, are there?
Yet you want to believe.
And regarding Obama and his book promotion… seriously? Someone’s promoting your work as coming from a person born in Kenya and as the author of the book you don’t say anything to correct it?
You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.
So a blurb circulated to publishing insiders, which was not seen or reviewed by Obama, said that he was born in Kenya. Figuring this out is a little more difficult than figuring out how old America is, but not really that much more difficult.
Fact: Trump refuses to release his tax returns.
Fact: His excuse that he can’t because he’s under an audit is a proven lie.
Reasonable and logical conclusion, based on ACTUAL, NOT MANUFACTURED, FACTS: Trump has something to hide. Else why would he not only refuse but lie about it?
But wait, there’s more:
Fact: A number of Trump associates have been tied to Russia.
Fact: Trump and team removed the anti-Russian plank from the Republican Party platform.
Fact: At least one Trump associate has provably lied about his connections to Russia, and was fired over it.
Fact: Others who have been fired for similar reasons have not been interviewed by the investigation yet, in which they may yet be proven to have lied.
A quite logical motivation for the first part above.
Your assertion is based on no facts whatsoever, in the face of being presented with actual facts refuting your position.
Since the Washington Times doesn’t work for you, how about this…
I’m not going so far as to say I think she started it, only that she used it (or her supporters at the time) to discredit him.
The only point I’m making is this is that it wasn’t strictly a Republican ‘made up’ question. It was questioned by both sides.
A lot like Trump and his taxes now. Like I think I said earlier I’m not denying it’s an issue of contention, I’m just not saying one is better than the other.
The hypocrisy of the ‘elite’ superior intellect crowd isn’t lost on us “deplorable’s”.