I know the rules about ‘scum would never do that’ but can you be more blatant about your fishing?
Hmm…I thought he was hoping for the answer “I am scum”…but that interpretation makes more sense given the way he phrased the question…
Vote Straggler
(Emphasis added.)
You are so so wrong! I vig’d you because you insisted on posting in a way that made it impossible for me to determine your alignment. I certainly didn’t vig you for your ideas, because I could not comprehend you. I didn’t know what your ideas were!
You should note that I haven’t even complained about you this game because you have been (mostly) comprehensible. I specifically stated your posting style hadn’t risen to the level of anti-Town in this game.
You seem to be carrying baggage from the past, and it’s not even the right baggage.
Bleached.
It was more of a joke than an actual vote. I was just admitting I was being stupid. I definitely had no intention of leaving a vote on myself. :smack:
FTR I don’t like the wording in that question either.
It implies that I am either anti-town or scum with no other option.
I thought it was pretty obvious that the vote was for dramatic effect and that it wasn’t serious.
On a separate note I am wondering where Paulwhoisaghost went. I know certain people do not like to bring up previous games, but Paul is usually one of the most active players on the boards.
I have never seen him miss a whole day IRL without posting.
I don’t have any solid reasons for voting Paul or Pleonast yet, but I will point the FOS at them.
I am going to put my vote on Kittens for now. I could see it as a newbie mistake for town to vote without stating your reasons, but seems more like a new scum trying to find a place to squeeze in a vote without drawing attention.
That is not why I am voting though. I absolutely hate it when players try to hard to please everyone and be non confrontational. We need confrontation to find scum.
The combination of trying to blend in by voting with everyone without reasoning and then backing off and voting even more cowardly so as not to offend anyone is why I am voting.
**Vote willthekittensurvive **
Sometimes you will offend people. Sometimes people will vote for you. Sometimes you will be lynched, but if you did your best to get the town as much information as possible then you played a good, pro-town game. Don’t try to hide and pretend to be helpless and try to please everyone because the only people who you are pleasing are the scum.
Oh boy, looks like I’m going down, If I’m making mistakes its mostly because this is my first game and I besides being a non-confrontational wimp, I underestimated the work going into analysing the mass of information generated by the other posters, and still haven’t found anything to base my vote on, If I saw another poster displaying my “cowardice” I would probably vote for him too.
Still a day to go and who knows maybe I can actually find something worth voting against, and maybe I can actually convince you all that I’m not scum,
Even If I’m not dont make though the day, I’ll keep reading the game to see if I can learn the tells….
P.S I’m not scum
Ya know, if you get lynched, willthekittensurvive, and you turn up scum, then good riddance
But if you turn up townie, I’m going to be mighty p****d that it was a pile-on that did you over.
What is your definition of a pile-on?
Is it when a person gets more votes than someone else?
because that’s how we lynch someone.
So far, you’ve sat there, very accusatory, taunting people, placing smudges, like this one, and provided no real input for the Town to go on.
I’m going to do a thorough re-read today after work.
I agree, which is why I said I had to think on it, not as you suggest ‘walk away with my hands clean’.
You voted for me because I had a good chance of getting lynched. Please explain how this isn’t scummy.
If I understand correctly what you’re asking is, ‘should I assume Mafia players aren’t cheating’.
My answer is yes.
Well, like I said in my post when I list your name amongst the people who have teamed up I think you have previously explained that it wasn’t a true team and that you did just happen to agree on a single point – to the extent of answering for each other. I accept it and was mainly listing you other 4 for completeness. Its straggler that I was really looking for his reasons to not suspect.
It’s possible that you’re just bugging me but this strikes me as one of those posts were a scum is taunting the town about getting ready to lynch a townie. Kitten keeps looking more and more like overwhelmed town but you on the other hand are seriously coming across, at the very least, anti-town. I know were building a head of steam towards Kitten but I think I’m going to switch over to you.
Unvote willthekittensurvive?
Vote straggler
1 - [Undecided] Adrian (Natlaw)
1 - BillMC (Pleonast)
1 - Oredigger77 (Seeker of Truth and Beauty)
1 - Pleonast (peekercpa)
1 - Seeker of Truth and Beauty (Hero From Sector 7G)
3 - Sitnam (Nanook of the North Shore, Almost Human, straggler)
4 - willthekittensurvive? (special ed, [Undecided] Adrian, MentalGuy, Batman Jenkems)
1 - peekercpa (Sitnam)
3 - straggler (paulwhoisaghost, pedescribe, Oredigger77)
1 - No Lynch (willthekittensurvive?)
Whatever it takes to get players to play.
And I agree that players not voting and not participating are separate issues. But voting for whoever they think is Scum is still one of the duties of players, even if they are otherwise participating. And any player who has enough to time to comment on others, has enough time to place a vote.
If a player has IRL issues preventing participation and voting, then they should be responsible enough to tell us.
I thought that it was obvious my either-or question was for dramatic effect, too.
There’s no reason why you’d have to answer a leading question following its assumptions. The way you did answer it is fine.
You know straggler, the more I think about it the more having a posted *List of Suspicion *and voting for whoever is closest to getting lynched bothers me. Essentially its a List of People I Want to Smudge but your decision (and it’s consequences) are out of your hands because you joined the bandwagon while simultaneously being able to claim you didn’t jump on a bandwagon because you’ve posted your List before it started.
Tonight I’m going to read the thread over again and make a final voting decision, but I’ll pay particular attention to you sir.
Sachertorte, in the rules you said “All votes must have a time stamp of Thursday, 3:59 PM ET or earlier.” I think this board is in Chicago, so that would make the cut off for our votes 2:59 PM, right?
What displays on your computer screen is user selected. If your profile is set to Central Time then you would need a time stamp of 2:59PM.
Straggler, I feel this may be partially directed at me since I may have appeared to be arguing against pile-ons earlier in the thread. First, I don’t know if the situation with kitten is an actual pile-on or simply people coming to their own conclusions based on their own reasoning and past experience . But I was not trying to argue that pile-ons are never justified, I just thought one was trying to get started against me for unjustified reasons. If my comment had been a more explicit PIS then a pile-on against me would have been entirely justified.
I do not have much experience, but in the one game I have observed, someone that was acting somewhat like kitten turned out to be newbie scum and it was that more than anything that I based my vote on.
I forgot to list you, Straggler, in my list of people I find suspicious. A lot of your posts and ideas seem to be anti-town, but they often also seem like an overconfident newbie. I do wonder if you might be trying to display confidence and a bit of bluster to keep people from thinking you are scum.
Seeker of Truth and Beauty will be replaced as soon as I can find a replacement.
Just re-reading this, fair enough that you voted for me for voting an idea, but I’m a little curious Pleo - why was paulwhoisaghost not on your list? He clearly states that it is the idea, and Straggler’s defense of the idea that he finds scummy.
That said, I still find Straggler’s behaviour anti-town - tho it may be just his style to be very defensive. His list of suspicion is questionable, and why does he find Pleo least suspicious? because Pleo effectively got a vote removed from Straggler?
Out of all the WillTheKittenSurvive posts, this one narks me most, sticking a 4th vote on for the sake of it. Again, this could be the defensive, non-confrontational psyche that kitten is claiming.
Meanwhile, on ESPN9 we have the ongoing match between Sitnam and Straggler
**@Straggler:**So essentially you are saying you are happy that Nanook cast the first stone, why didn’t you? but you join in third.
With both Staggler and Sitnam sitting joint second, one vote behind kitten, this could be read as Sitnam paving the way to move his vote to Straggler making it a tie with Kitten
Further contemplation after the next beer…
We can’t expect SoTB’s sub to explain/justify why SoTB was acting the way he did. That doesn’t mean we should give that behavior a free pass. I think there’s a good chance that SoTB was scum based on him lurking in plain sight, while misleadingly accusing peekercpa of doing the same thing. Additionally, his vote for Oredigger77 was based on weak reasoning, the majority of which wasn’t even his own. I feel kind of guilty voting for someone who’s not here to defend himself, but nevertheless
Vote Seeker of Truth and Beauty
Straggler, please provide a clearer reason why you’re voting for Sitnam. The only explanation I’ve seen is that you tried to find arguments against him but couldn’t, so he looked too clean. But what made you focus specifically on Sitnam? Or did you look at everyone, and he was the only one who appeared too innocent? I hope I’m not misunderstanding again, but it seems like you’re hinting that you have a good reason for your vote, but you’re not willing to share it. That’s not helpful. I’ve mentioned town norms before, and if nothing else, I hope we can all come to an agreement that voting without a clear justification is unacceptable. Otherwise, we won’t be able to hold people accountable, thereby giving scum free reign.