Luck is an interesting concept. I’ve had terrible luck with a certain moderator’s game; and I’ve had wonderful luck with a different moderator’s game. I wish I could reciprocate that good luck, but I can’t.
Pleonast, a werewolf, is dead.
Day Two begins now.
Nanook of the North Shore
Hero From Sector 7G
[del]Pleonast[/del] Werewolf
Seeker of Truth and Beauty Ichini Sanshigo
pedescribe
Sitnam
rexnervous Mr. Svinlesha
peekercpa
special ed
Natlaw
[Undecided] Adrian
willthekittensurvive?
[del]straggler[/del] Cabalist
Oredigger77
BillMC
MentalGuy
Almost Human
paulwhoisaghost
ok11
Batman Jenkems
Wow, like pedescribe said: good, but weird. And Pleonast got again killed in the first Night :eek:.
I looked up what a Cabalist is and in a book written by our dear moderator it mentioned ‘A Cabalist is a member of the Cabal faction’. Browsing the book now to find out what exactly a werewolf is…
Some notes can be found in the link in my signature as well.
Do we know that cabalists are scum? aren’t cabalists some kind of magicians?
that work in a group?
and don’t werewolves get to kill at night? maybe they had a tie?
ties are bad
and natlaw
thanks for the links!
More experienced players might know exactly what is implied by “Cabalist” but I think the name definitely indicates a group of some sort. Cabal usually has a negative connotation, so I am guessing the faction is “anti-town” if not necessarily working with the scum, but I am less sure about that.
With a werewolf being NK’ed, can we assume something went wrong for the scum? Might they have tried to night-kill a player with a special power that backfired on them?
snort
That’s a possibility. Is it likely that there’s a third night-acting faction or individual? We now know there’s at least three groups (Townspeople, Cabal, and Werewolves), so yet another group may be a bit unwieldy. Maybe it’s another individual, like a Vigilante or a Psychopath or something.
In other news, I’ still reading through Day One, but I just about don’t know what to make of that mess. The scummiest person I could see was straggler, but he’s dead, so that’s fairly useless. I’m also suspicious of Hero for his vote against Pleonast for bad math skills, but that turned out to be pretty legit. I also have some other vague, weak suspicions (that keep switching as I read the thread), but I want to try to build a case that’s more concrete than plaster before I vote.
Who was it that had the conversation which assumed wolves?
**straggler **and mental guy?
could our Scum faction be a conglomeration of different bad guys?
Wait what? Bad math skills? Over and over I said I thought he made a slip somewhere. The 7 lynch number came out of no-where, and than he used the wrong formula to cover. It wasn’t that he didn’t know how to add 1 and 1, it was that by his own logic he should have come to different conclusions. I still don’t think 7 was a true mistake; Pleo was using different numbers to get there and backpedaled when it would indicate he had extra information.
Why are you smudging me over this? I thought it was a good catch.
Vote Ichini
I was suspicious of Seeker yesterday and moved my vote off because I think voting for players who aren’t present is a lousy thing to do (both for the game and courtesy).
Okay so I phrased that wrong. I was thinking “bad math skills” because upon first reading it, I thought his “slip” may have been legitimate. “Bad math skills” was a bad phrase, okay?
And I hardly think that counts as a smudge. I was giving my impressions of the first day, and I admitted they were pretty weak and that I’d be back with a more considered response and and vote. Or did you just not read the rest of my post? You’re awfully quick to vote for me for expressing my (so-far) weak-assed observations. Or are you just trying to intimidate me into SingTFU?
That’s what I thought as well when I saw that we’ve got a Cabalist and a Werewolf, but the following makes me think otherwise:
Where did you read this? A faction would imply more than one, right? If the Cabal is a faction, then we’re either dealing with two scummy factions, or straggler was a PFK.
Hero, now that we know that Pleo was anti-town, could you elaborate on the game setup you mentioned in post 258? It looks like you were right.
Feelin’ you out, bro. I thought Seeker was sketchy, so you’re gonna take his heat for a minute.
Dude, your post says you think Straggler was scummiest, than you drop a suspicioun bomb on me. Clearly something was going on in your head and it was important enough to mention only me.
Words can be twisted, votes can’t. A smudge is a statement of scummy implication that you don’t have to be held accountable for.
No, I’m putting my vote where my mouth is. There is no ambiguity about it.
If I hadn’t voted I could come back in the next post and go “Oh Ichy, why are you reacting like that? What I really meant was blah blah blah.” Personally I feel that using your vote to echo your words is less confusing in the long run and more fair to the people you are talking about. You know exactly where we stand.
But still, I am curious about why you chose “intimidating.” Do I intimidate you?
Bwahahaha!
I obviously need to try harder in the future to get lynched, because I certainly don’t survive Nights.
Just so we are clear, I said the following
7 mislynches would mean 6 surviving players. There are a ton of ways the game could go on: a town aligned serial killer, i town aligned power that reflects, a non-scum faction with a specific victory condition.
I wish I could see the look on Pleo’s face when he read the death report.
Thanks. Not-so-simple, indeed.
So:
What book are you referring to, Natlaw?
[quote=“Hero_From_Sector_7G, post:552, topic:488592”]
Feelin’ you out, bro. I thought Seeker was sketchy, so you’re gonna take his heat for a minute.Dude, your post says you think Straggler was scummiest, than you drop a suspicioun bomb on me. Clearly something was going on in your head and it was important enough to mention only me. [.quote]
May I direct your attention to my post:
Bolding by me. I was jotting down my impressions of the first day as I was reading through the thread. At page 7, Straggler looked scummy, and so did you. If it was still Day One and I was playing, I would have voted you or straggler. But it’s not Day One, and my impressions of your interaction with Pleonast changed, so a vote for you on Day Two, for an expired opinion, would be fairly stupid. That’s why I didn’t vote for you in my post. I thought that could be pretty much implied from the bolded parts, but apparently I need to spell things out in detail.
snort No. Annoy, maybe. You have (re)raised my interest. I make one post and you start leaning on me like I’m a lightpost at the bus stop (was that clever? No? Okay, sorry). Maybe you’re just trying to get convo started on Day 2, and that’s cool. But your basis for voting for me (leftover suspicion from Seeker and a misreading of my post), was pretty weak.
The book is called ‘The laws and history of Simpletown’, subtitled ‘With questions answered by sachertorte’. Relevant excerpt about how to contact the author:
Anyway, I turned the page and read ‘A werewolf is a member of the Wolf faction’ and my further inquiries where redirected back to an earlier chapter, specifically:
So that means we got (at least) three factions: Town, Cabal and Wolf. Downside (with balanced teams): simple odds to win is only one third, compared to fifty-fifty with two. Upside: my guess is that the Cabal killed Pleonast and either the Wolves can’t, didn’t or failed to kill.
Maybe our moderator was being cryptic and Pleonast was a lone wolf? That would mean he mostly likely was a Serial Killer but we didn’t have a second death.
straggler as PFK makes even less sense, since he was dead Night One and then who did kill the werewolf?
Several thoughts about the werewolf/cabalist roles follow, but first a question:
With several scum factions, how is a nightkill normally decided? Do they not get one each? One of the options randomly chosen? Each scum player votes and the majority wins?
Anyway, this is only my second online game and I’m not familiar with the various roles, but based on the flash role overview these are my speculations:
The name cabalist suggests cult to me. But in that case straggler would have been alone the first day and the cabalists would be extinct. This would only fit with the werewolf nightkill if there was a combination of doctor protection and vigilante kill Tonight, however, or with a townie power role where his attacker dies instead. I didn’t find a role with that description, though, Elite Bodyguard is close but not it.
One far-out thought: Perhaps the cabalists are normal scum and the werewolves were a cult? sachertorte might be having fun with the naming. Not sure if in this case Pleonast would have recruited somebody before his death.
But the most likely explanation are two regular scum factions, I think. Especially if the win condition Natlaw quoted precludes recruiting (I’m not sure if it does, don’t want to make definite statements about moderator wording 
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How would that play out numbers-wise?
With 20 Players, 3 scum each, probably?
NETA: If the scum majority nightkill idea and my number estimate are correct, that would mean that the three wolves had spread their votes out and the two remaining cabalists voted for the same person. Very unlikely for the wolves to do that. Or there was a tie, as willthekittensurvive suggested, ties are bad. But why didn’t the wolves vote unanimously then?
Oops, I meant to say that the werewolf might have been a PFK, not the Cabalist. But now Natlaw says that a werewolf is a member of a faction, too. So it’s much likelier that we’re dealing with two factions. Also, just to be on the safe side,
What is a Cabalist? What is a Werewolf?
Sorry sachertorte for not sending this via PM, but I want everyone to see the answer in the off chance that there’s any discrepancy with what Natlaw posted.