Not entirely random, but there was no defensible reason behind it either. Your post about making a list put you on my radar before roles were assigned so I decided my first vote would be for you barring the unlikely chance that someone really stepped in it and ran way up the scum meter.
Do I really think you’re mafia? Not really any more than I suspect anyone else right now. Ring tail and nocturnal habits just fit conveniently to colorize a decision already made. Maybe half a step above random.org.
In the first “Werewolf” game the wolves munched on JSexton early on since they knew that such a well-seasoned player would be much more likely to find out their true status. There’s no greater threat than an experienced townie.
If you are truly town, you know that your experience with the game makes you a tremendous asset. But then if, as you say, you’ve “hosted this game many, many times”, you wouldn’t be so foolish as to expose yourself out as such an obvious mark for an early mafia hit.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, supposing that you’re town, you just opened yourself up to a mafia hit. But given your stated experience with the game, I can’t imagine that you’re that clumsy.
On that note I’m definitely going to participate during each day, but I don’t have as much free time as some of the more skilled players, so I won’t be able to be on-the-spot responding to each query; if I can, I’ll try to make one or two big posts each time I come on, responding to whatever’s been said in my absence. ^^
Or I just wanted people to know that I’ve seen both sides and have a good idea of what sort of person would say what. So if “* just opened [my]self up to a mafia hit.” and it happens, well, I’d think it’d be safe to say I was getting too close with my suspicions maybe?
At least getting killed off first is flattering in the regard that the scum probably see you as a threat.
It will be interesting to see how the different sides of the various debates pan out down the road (as far as role revelation goes) about what is and isn’t valuable to the town or worthy of town suspicion as far as the first day goes.
That being said, I’m inclined now to throw a vote out toward the person who’s reasoning seems the most opposite of mine, which by my calculation means a vote for nesta.
That feels like a retaliatory vote more than anything. It’s OK; at least it’s not random.
Please tell me (and us) how my reasoning is opposite from yours? I think you’re talking about my disliking completely random votes. Are you saying that you advocate completely random votes?
This is an obvious bit of advice, and seems to be either a mafia or power-role saying “look at me I’m a townie” cry. As, in my estimation, it’s equally likely that that could be a tell for either role, I’ll simply FOS dnooman, and keep an eye on him.
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Didn’t we learn in the last game that FOSing people for stated or implied experience is counter-productive (observe the early **sturmhauke ** accusations and the near lynching of JSexton). I admit, **Idle Thoughts ** looks a little suspicious, but it’s nothing more than gut for me and this point. So, FOS RQ.
Random votes have their place, but I hate to see people hiding behind a website telling them to do something. It just smacks of not taking responsibility for their votes. I don’t like that. It seems like something a Mafia would do so that later in the game he/she could go back and say “Hey, I didn’t really vote to kill that townie, a randomizer website told me to!”
And after all, in the Werewolf game, the first person to use random.org to cast a vote ended up being scum.
Most of us are voting essentially randomly, and that’s necessary at this point. But even though your vote is random, coming out and saying that you let an independent entity do it for you is pretty darn suspicious to me right now.
I noticed that I have a vote, and I think it’s based on a misunderstanding, if not a deliberate misrepresentation of my first daytime post. I was NOT advocating a no-lynch day, I was just saying that it had seemed obvious at first glance, but then it had lost its appeal. My changing my mind happened before the day even technically started. I was only trying to express how humorously frustrating it feels to post something, trying to second guess (and third and fourth guess) everything based on how someone might think it’s a scum tell!
What? It wasn’t so obvious to Hal Briston it seems. Sorry Hal, but the idea that your claiming “vanilla town” was a bad idea does have some credence. That’s why I posted it.
I was not, nor am I, trying to say “look at me I’m a townie”. I’m saying that unnecessary claims of “vanilla town” can in fact be detrimental to the town and helpful to the Mafia.
As evidenced by Blaster Master’s statement, he agrees that this is a sound strategy. Anyone that thinks I was trying to make an "I’m a townie "cry is being overly paranoid.
Random selection has a place in the first day. We are still in the first day. I FOS’s, not voted, randomly on the first day.
Statistically speaking (ymmv) a random selection on the first day is a valid technique to try and hit scum and miss town.
Take an analogy from the world in which I marinate in my profession. Just because there are botnet-infecting, phishing, social engineering, fraudulent criminals opperating online, you still see more and more folks migrating legitimately online for such matters.
In my opinion, saying “I used random.org!” for voting is pretty useless and at, at worst, perhaps a scum tell. On Day 1, faulty reasoning is likely, but NO reasoning is worse as it really gives us nothing to go on.
Blaster Master random votes SnakesCatLady in post 187 “in the interest of getting the ball rolling”. He later defends himself for his practice in post 218.
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies points a random FOS Kyrie Eleison in post 201.
If I missed anyone, please let me know. In my opinion, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies is slightly more suspicious than Blaster Master, given was done later when there was more reason to cast a vote based on cause – and BM did at least seem to have a reason. Mild FOS ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies.
There were some early votes based on pretty weak reasoning but these were the stated “random” ones.
Hmm. I’m almost sure the scum were behind the mini-wagon that almost rolled over NAF. The problem is nailing down exactly who was being honestly suspicious, and who wanted to kill the poor chap. I’m waffling between Kyrie Eleison and Fluiddruid. I really, really want fluiddruid to be town, because he seems to be pretty observant and he’s obviously an experienced player, but I don’t trust all of his probing. Offering your takes on strategy is valid, and asking people to back up what they’re saying is equally valid, but despite his obvious knowledge of the game it seems like he’s insisting on questioning every little thing.
My guess is that he’s feeling for power roles based on how people defend themselves. Since nobody else bothers me quite as much yet, Vote fluiddruid
