Do you really not get that there is a fundamental philosophical divide in the country that Obama has sharpened. And that philosophical positions really, really can matter to people?
Scoff, if you must. But many Americans were embarrassed by his actions. And seems inappropriate to boot.
HA! “Aligned with”? Are you fucking kidding me? You might as well argue that they merely happened to live in the same state. Please. They were close. For many years. And then, when the associations and the substance of Jeremiah Wright became known, Obama felt compelled to do what he must, the honorable thing, because he “could no more disavow Jeremiah Wright as he could his own grandmother”. Cut to a week or two down the road: “Oh, what’s that, this is killing me in the polls? Okay, fuck him. Next.”
Actually, no, I didn’t compare him to Bush. You might want to ask yourself why you felt compelled to do so. You are just making my point for me.
They would be negative for any youth, not just black. And they are negative things for all youth, it is a general cultural increase in all these things. But I don’t blame black youth or their parents for these trends. Guess who I blame? Republicans. Yes, Republicans for not keeping funding for schools and attacking it at every opportunity since Prop 13 in California in the late 70s (although I support Prop 13 on its own merits).
Music classes, sports teams, first class facilities. We should frankly spend as much per capita on students as we do on prisoners. That is, $40,000 per year. Okay, that is too much. But if we had nice schools that spent $15,000 per year per student we would be sending them a message that is utterly different than the run down facilities inadequately staffed that they have now: that they are important.
Perhaps you’d like to simply answer the questions I specifically asked. If you just want to say it’s objectionable to even bring this stuff up and call O’Reilly a racist for doing so, and never state the problem so nothing can ever be done about them, You are making O’Reilly’s point for him
So, please do address the questions I asked in the post you responded to above.
I’ll answer – those things are bad, for any kids. But O’Reilly didn’t ask that question – O’Reilly said black families are in dissolution, he said black parents don’t properly supervise children, he said black people grow up with no skills and cannot read or speak, he said black people have neck tattoos, and he said black people can’t compete in the marketplace.
Do you object to what O’Reilly said, or do you think it’s okay to say that black people don’t properly supervise children, etc.?
You cannot dissociate yourself from racism by defending it, mag. You are making that point for the rest of us, repeatedly, but you still seem incapable of getting it yourself.
Huh? He was talking about Black youth, those poor Black kids that mostly live in inner cities. And the reasons why they are not doing well. He identified the smaller problems that create the larger one. What in the world is wrong with that? I’d say it’;s the responsible thing to do. You can’t fix something unless you know what it is you’re trying to fix. Seriously, what is wrong with that? You’re not making any sense.
I do not object one iota. He’s pointing to reality. His point is that the dissolution of the family is taking it’s toll on the kids. That Black families, writ large, are unable to supervise their children as well as they could with families intact. Do you actually dispute this. Do you dispute that many inner city schools are not good places of learning because the kids are not well-behaved students and that the schools cannot create the environment that would be most conducive to learning? What he said aligns largely with the comments Bill Cosby made a few years ago.
No, please, I ask you again, go back to that post you responded to and answer each of the questions specifically. For just one post, supply answers with no questions. Seriously. I’m very curious to know your thoughts on this.
The context does not change the basic philosophical position. Whether it comes out Obama’s mouth or the mouth of Elizabeth Warren or some other progressive, the sentiment is not one that many people feel represents what America is about. No if you want to argue the merits of that particle piece of stupidity coming from either of those two, the debate has been had. Do a search.
It is funny, though, one would think by the quantity of your posts that you’re actually interested in the issues and would like to discuss them. But, no, you’re just a post a cite and run away lame ass. Thanks for clearing that up once again.
Which, according to O’Reilly, are because black people are bad at parenting, black people grow up with no skills and cannot read or speak, he said black people have neck tattoos, and he said black people can’t compete in the marketplace.
You mean, the smaller problems like black people are bad parents?
What’s wrong with saying “black people are… [negative thing, like ‘bad parents’]”? I think you know the answer to that.
So I’m supposed to praise O’Reilly for having the courage to stand up and fix the problem of ‘black people are bad parents’? No thank you.
Saying “[ethnic/racial/etc. group] are [negative thing]” is a bad and racist thing to say. That’s what O’Reilly did that I object to.
So you agree with Bill that black people are bad parents?
I dispute that black people are bad parents, yes (along with the other negative things Bill said about black people).
Already answered, but I’ll try again. Here are your questions:
I’ll try to avoid a confusing double-negative: I believe points 1) through 6) can be bad things for kids. I disagree with Bill O’Reilly that black people are bad parents, have no skills, do not read or speak well, have neck tattoos, etc.
More weird uses of “not” (and this appears to be almost the exact same question), so I’ll again try to avoid a confusing double-negative: points 1) through 6) are bad things that should be avoided, and in general are negatives for youths. I disagree with Bill that black people are bad parents, have no skills, do not read or speak well, have neck tattoos, etc.
“You didn’t build that” referred to infrastructure, not people’s businesses. The vast majority of America agrees that most business owners did not build the infrastructure (roads, bridges, electrical grid, law enforcement, etc) whose existence is partially responsible for the success of any small (or large) business.
True, but the problems disproportionately affect Black youth.
It’s not about blaming anyone. It’s about identifying a problem so it can be fixed.
I’m shocked. :rolleyes:
This is absolute crazy talk. Especially since it has been found that throwing money at the problem does not fix the problem. Many inner city public schools spend more per child than charter schools in the same inner cities. Guess which wines do better. Guess which ones inner city parents want their kids to go to.
Sorry, it’s not about money. I wish it were. That would be much easier to fix.
And you might want to read up on something called the Kansas City Experiment. Everything you just described, that dream list, along with a lower student-teacher ration, was tried. It failed.