I apologize - I didn’t mean it to be patronizing at all.
As long as you’re aware that others will knee-jerk it.
That’s what I meant, only you said it more precisely.
Again, sorry to sound patronizing. I shouldn’t have assumed you were unaware of the term’s racist use. I was just noting that I’ve seen such cases elsewhere.
Now a (presumed) liberal is callling ME (a fellow liberal) racist - for a statement where I was AGREEING that a statement by another poster was racist (which he didn’t understand). You must be laughing over their on the right side of the aisle. I might be tempted to come join you and become a right-winger too if you guys were such racists. 
No doubt, but that isn’t what Obama claimed.
This isn’t ambiguous. It’s rather like him swearing up and down that it wasn’t a tax, it was a penalty. Then he got the law passed, and suddenly it was a tax. Or him guaranteeing I could keep my coverage, knowing full well it was going to be cancelled.
Obama lied.
Regards,
Shodan
:rolleyes:It was “easy” because you took a wall of my text and just magically deemed it racist. That’s the same lame shit you clowns always try to get away with. And it’s why I get under so many people’s skin—I don’t allow these blanket pronouncements. So, smart guy, cite the specific things I said that you think racist and we can talk about them. Otherwise, you just show yourself to be a poster boy example of what liberals are getting called on in this thread.
You may be able to get away with your loose thinking when you an a bunch of your lefty buddies are swooning over another Maya Angelou reading, but this ain’t that circle jerk, as much as you would like it to be…
So, whatcha got with all your “ample evidence”?
The funny part about that comment is that it’s exactly like calling someone “racist” at every opportunity.
I defend anyone when I believe they’ve been treated unfairly. That includes the any Republican, and it includes false or unsupported accusations of racism. I do so because I believe in fairness, and I believe that you only degrade yourself when you treat others unfairly, and you lose the moral high ground and the right to complain when you are treated unfairly. I believe unsupported accusations of racism only make it harder when REAL racism comes along - nobody pays attention. It’s a version of “crying wolf.”
So no, your silly baiting doesn’t work on me.
I know what’ you’re talking about. Some of it is wrong. And I’ll say so, even if you don’t like it and even if it doesn’t meet your political needs. Deal with it.
Okay. Did I say he wasn’t? Maybe you don’t know what I’m talking about.
That’s an unfair and unsupportable statement. Maybe you could say alot of Republicans are racists, but it’s not quite “typical.” You simply don’t have enough evidence to accuse millions of people of all being racists.
They’re not listening. They have a script in their heads, and if you deviate from the script, or they lose their place in it, they don’t know what else to do except try the race card.
Yup, I get to do a lot of that.
Regards,
Shodan
I’ll tell you one thing - the pathetic logic and insulting bullshit I see from some liberals, including a few on this board, won’t make me change my mind about my political views (that would be just as illogical - fuck, I’m starting to sound like Spock). But it does make me less prone to trust them. That’s unfortunate. It doesn’t help our cause.
Pretty funny that people would actually make the effort that Obama didn’t lie—about anything. He’s a serial liar. Most politicians are, but he’s incredibly bad at it. Or is it “good” at it?
I’d rather defend that Dennis Rodman really should be our Ambassador to Korea. After endless, “If you like your health care plan…” lies, defending him as not being a liar about anything that came out of his mouth is tough work.
Of course any nation takes care of its own citizens first and foremost, but the way some people work themselves into a tizzy at the notion that an “illegal alien” might benefit in the slightest from any public funds is quite disturbing to me. Should we give them passports? No. Patch them up when they get injured? Of course.
Yep. And it annoys the hell out of me that they keep taking the bait and you keep reeling them in. Screw you for being right about something, you stupid rightwinger.
Well, we do patch them up when they get injured. We don’t give them free comprehensive health coverage.
And now it’s time for you to put on your big boy pants and defend this. Please be specific and not lame, like the Second Stone’s latest attempt. Let’s see what you got.
Well, then defend this:
Defending racist and nativist organizations is only the beginning, supporting scientific racists like Chen019 and Chief Pedant is supporting evidence. Mind you, I still go for just a clueless fellow following crackpot sources, but this is hard to keep when the scientific racists are taken into account.
Gosh, he must be the politician in history to do so.
Out of curiosity, what if spending health-care money on illegal immigrants was actually cost-effective, i.e. some preventative care here and there was better than the spending on emergency care when their cases become acute? Is this strictly a government-spending thing or do you see some kind of moral imperative to kick people out (in which case I’d suggest mandating that all health-care workers must notify law-enforcement if they know or suspect a patient of being in the U.S. illegally)?
I’m sorry, are we reading the same post?
Because this doesn’t even try to be true.
Please show me where Obama called it a penalty but not a tax, and then calling it a tax after the law passed. As I recall it, the Supreme Court called it a tax, not Obama. Or did the Obama administration call it a tax when arguing before the court?
Cost-effectiveness doesn’t register with conservative minds. Many want to see drug testing for welfare benefits, even though the cost of such testing would outweigh any benefit. Not to mention the moral aspect of letting a child starve because his mother smoked a joint.
Why would I want to do that?
I don’t defend those either, or did you mean someone else?
I don’t understand your point. I don’t defend racists, I defend non-racists (or those presumed not to be racist) who are unfairly called racists.
P.S. And if any of you are as confused as Second Stone, let me be clear - I’m not defending Magellan from accusations of racism specifically. I don’t have enough information on him. I’m talking about the whole “anyone who bashes Obama is racist” or “all Republicans are racist” crap.
An afterthought occurs - since there’s a growing concern that there won’t be enough workers to support the now-retiring baby boomers, why not encourage immigration?
Good then, lets be clear that you are not defending magellan01. You see, crackpots do grab from even feebler straws to tell themselves that you are defending them. You have to take into account that your reply and the following post of **Shodan **made it look like if you were agreeing with the effort to distract about who the subject of the pit thread is.