Maid in Manhattan, J.Lo and Romantic Comedies.

I’m a romcom junkie. Good romantic comedies are just about the hardest things to make in the movies. All the way back to Gable and Colbert it’s been a very hard genre. Making the audience laugh, while caring for the two characters, putting obstacles in the way of the romance, following the (often) formulaic Cinderella recipe while keeping the story fresh and entertaining. There is often a dog and/or a precocious child somewhere in the mix. If a kid doesn’t fit the story, there’ll be a quirky best friend playing cupid: ‘Sleepless in Seattle’, ‘You’ve got Mail’, ‘The American President’, ‘Pretty Woman’.

So I saw Maid in Manhattan yesterday. And I’m surprised on a few levels. Yes, of course it was formulaic. The plot points were signaled a mile away. The kid is adorable and quirky. Her best friend is quirky and rowdy. His best friend and advisor is bordering on hysteria. The paternal figure is supportive of her to the point of quitting his job when she does. And of course, there is a dog.

J.Lo’s public persona is bordering on obnoxious. The whole noveau riche style is far from flattering. Her comments and interviews are the media is strange, sometimes dangerously close to bizarre. A couple of years ago, I was a a perty in her honor. It was in Stockholm and her record company had booked a very large restaurant where she was going to attend the party celebrating the release of her new video. Ms Lopez would of course not interact with us 900 mere mortals who were invited. In the restaurant, there was a fenced off area, where everything was white. The normal furniture was chucked out and replaced by white chairs, tables, carpets, flowers… Everything was white. When she finally arrived, through a back door, she came in, all dressed in white, sat on a chair and sipped some champagne, while the ‘bold and the beautiful’ of the Stockholm nightlife tried to catch a glimpse of her, from 30 feet away. I had left a lot earlier, since the place was just too crowded. Friends who stayed said that the whole thing was just BS, though it generated a buzz in the media, and I suppose the record comapny was happy with that.

But I loved ‘Maid in Manhattan’. Lopez is totally believable as a 30 something single mom. She might not be Oscar™ material, but in this and other movies where I’ve seen her, she always does quite a good job. I found her adorable in this movie. Good looking, charming, friendly, proud. The whole story is of course improbable bordering on stupid, but that’s why there are romcoms.

She or her agent can’t be unaware about the amount of highly acidic vitriol that’s projectile vomited in her direction. Seeing that she capable of portraying a lovable person on the screen, I find it strange that she wouldn’t do that with her private life. It would seem that she would have a much easier time if she came across as a nice person, about the same way people perceive Jennifer Anniston, maybe.

To me, it’s all very strange. Does the media portray her as a callous bitch, without any grounds? I don’t think so. Is she really that stupid? I don’t think so either. For me, she’s a riddle, that I can’t figure out. Any doper who can shed some light?

Regarding Maid in Manhattan, I think a friend of mine hit the mark when he described it as “Another movie where JLo discovers how wonderful she really is.”

Well, uhhh… Isn’t that the purpose of any romcom? Why is it different from… say ‘Pretty Woman’?

Anaconda and The Cell were romantic comedies, right? I saw those.

Enough was romantic.

At least for people in love with REVENGE!

See, that’s the difference between the classic romantic comedies of the 30s and 40s and the gunk we get today.

In the classic romantic comedies, one or both of the leads always had a greatly inflated sense of their own importance. The movie was about bursting that ego bubble so that they could finally grow up and find true love.

In the modern romantic comedies, the “problem” is always that the stunning, perfect lead just doesn’t realize just how stunning and perfect she really is.

In a similar vein, movies that nowadays are called “Capraeseqe” no longer have much to do with the actual Capra formula. In It’s a Wonderful Life, Jimmy Stewart never became rich. He never even made it to Europe. His big accomplishments were holding on to his family and avoiding jail. If someone were to remake the movie today, you just know that the producers would have George Bailey winning a hundred million dollars in the lottery and taking a trip around the world.

The great Depression-era movies were all about making lemonade when life dealt you lemons. Modern movies of this type are all about prettty, vapid movie stars having their cake and eating it too - which is why they’re all so forgettable.

Don’t songs like “Jenny from the block” try to portray a similar image to Maid in Manhattan? It’s just than when she does that sort of thing in real life, nobody believes her.

I dunno, I’m skittish about comparing today’s movies to those of the 'forties. What we think of as typical 1940s move fare actually represents the top 1% of films in terms of quality and popularity (not always the same thing). Most of the movies made in that era (or any era) were formulaic forgettable crap and have been justly forgotten.

Sure, there are fomulaic crappy movies still being made, but there are also pics like Bridget Jones’ Diary, which speak more frankly and realistically about sex than anything that could have been made when Will Hays was around.

I just had to say, this made me laugh out loud. Funny, but true!

I haven’t seen the movie, I’m just making a WAG.

I’m not sure what you mean, Gorgon.

I liked the movie, but I’m a sucker for that type of movie. However, it’s not the merits of ‘Maid in Manhattan’ I’m interested in. Even in this thread, there are snide remarks about her, which isn’t surprising. Something about her person provokes people. So, if she’s capable of acting nice in a movie, why wouldn’t she fake it in real life?

I simply can’t make the two ends meet.

I suddenly see you as Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog . . .

You’re right, Bryan, we do always think of only the top 1% when we look back. It’s just when it comes to the top 1% of quality in this particular genre, recent years just haven’t been so hot.

During 1930-1950, you can easily come up with a dozen or more first rate romantic comedies. During 1983 - 2003 you have – what? When Harry Met Sally and some good movies that weren’t quite as good as the books they were based on (Bridget Jones, High Fidelity, About a Boy.)

In the interest of fairness, I should point out that one cannot reasonably blame J Lo for this sad state of affairs. However, I will be happy to blame Julia Roberts. :slight_smile:

My guess is that she does it to be different. Her snobbishness may all be an act. Good looking starlets are a dime a dozen; to set yourself apart from the field you have to have a hook. Madonna has had enough antics to have several marketing PhD dissertations studying her life and Monroe had a mysterious death (oddly enough making her immortal).

Whatever she is doing it seems to work, she gets a lot of work, she (apparently) got the guy and, most importantly, airtime. Look at the Yahoo! Site listings for the most popular actors and actresses. Only Madonna has more listings.

I liked her work in Out of Sight and Angel Eyes. But I agree, she must have some idea of how haughty and arrogant she appears to the movie-going public.

If you want to see a charming romance/comedy/thriller with Lopez (and guns for us macho types), rent Out of Sight. She’s positively radiant and the sexual chemistry between her and George Clooney leaps off the screen. This was the first movie I ever saw her in and I had high hopes for her career. Sadly, she seems to have turned into some sort of monomaniacal narcissist and every movie she’s made since has blown chunks.

I liked Selena and Out of Sight. Unfortunate that I did, other wise I would have never rented The Wedding Planner.

Ugh.

First, you get the “Oh, woe is me, I can’t ever find a man!” Uh-huh. That’s about as likely as nobody recognizing Linda Carter with those glasses on. Then you get the absolutely ZERO chemistry between J.Lo and M.McCo. Then you get a bunch of horribly contrived scenes where they’re supposed to fall in love, which play like M.McCo is keeping his buddy’s wife company as a favor. Then you’ve got what has to be the single worst Italian accent ever put to film. Then <gasp!> they might not end up together after all!! Whew! That was close.

And for the TRULY unfortunate that happen to live in San Francisco, you get thunder-and-lightning torrential downpours, which happen to interrupt the free outdoor classical movie in Golden Gate Park, which was showing amongst the Ferris Wheel and other carnival rides in Golden Gate Park, which as we all know is your typical totally kid-safe after-dark Golden Gate Park type event.

Given this, I’d have to say “no”.

Oh, great, thanks a lot! Shouldn’t this be in a spoiler box? :smiley:

Bah. That’s a pretty standard rider, Max Torque.

I’ve seen Out of sight. And quite a few of her movies. There are some bombs, but a surprising amount of very good movies, where she gives an ok performance: Blood and Wine, Mi Familia, Selena. She’s managed to do what Madonna never did - top the music charts and have a fairly decent movie career.
Maybe it’s gone to her head and it might well be that Threadkiller has a point. It seems that if she could at least pretend to be nice, she would benefit from it. Maybe not increase her fanbase, but at least not alienate potential audience. As it is now, and what is evident from this thread, people who thought she was good in earlier movies are avoiding her newer work, largely because the way they perceive her, not because of the quality of ther work.

She wants her bottled water at room temperature? Sicko.