Making a map of dopers' political opinions

I’m suprised we have so many 30s & 31s without ANY 2s. How’s that work?

Thanks for all the responses so far.

I’m going to do one more round of this with better questions. Please feel free to suggest any.

  1. Disagree

  2. Disagree

  3. Disagree

  4. No opinion

  5. Disagree

  6. Disagree

  7. No opinion

  8. Agree

  9. Agree

  10. No opinion

  11. Disagree

  12. Disagree

  13. No opinion

  14. Disagree

  15. Disagree

  16. Disagree

  17. Agree

  18. Disagree

  19. No opinion

  20. Disagree

  21. No opinion

  22. Agree

  23. Agree

  24. Agree

  25. No opinion

  26. Disagree

  27. Agree

  28. Disagree

  29. Disagree

  30. Agree

  31. Disagree

  32. Agree

  33. No opinion

  34. Agree

  35. Agree

  36. Agree

  37. Disagree

  38. Disagree

  39. Disagree

  40. Agree

  41. No opinion

  42. Agree

By the way, for the second round: ray20 – must our responses be posted publicly? Is that an important part of the study? Will it be possible to have somewhere we can e-mail responses?

  1. D
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D
  6. A
  7. D
  8. D
  9. A
  10. A
  11. A
  12. D
  13. D
  14. D
  15. D
  16. A
  17. D
  18. D
  19. D
  20. A
  21. A
  22. A
  23. D
  24. A
  25. D
  26. D
  27. D
  28. D
  29. A
  30. A
  31. A
  32. A
  33. D
  34. D
  35. A
  36. D
  37. D
  38. A
  39. D
  40. A
  41. A
  42. A
  1. Agree
  2. Disagree
  3. Disagree
  4. Disagree
  5. Disagree
  6. Agree
  7. ?? No clue what this means
  8. Disagree
  9. Agree
  10. Agree
  11. Agree
  12. Disagree
  13. Disagree
  14. Disagree
  15. Disagree
  16. Disagree
  17. Disagree
  18. Disagree
  19. Disagree
  20. Agree
  21. Agree
  22. Disagree
  23. Disagree
  24. Disagree
  25. Disagree
  26. Agree
  27. Agree
  28. Disagree
  29. Disagree
  30. Agree
  31. Disagree
  32. Don’t know much about it
  33. Disagree
  34. Disagree
  35. Agree
  36. Disagree
  37. Agree
  38. Agree
  39. Disagree
  40. Disagree
  41. Don’t know
  42. Agree
  1. Disagree
  2. Disagree
  3. Agree with first part——»close prisons, i’m for banishment like on “No Escape”
  4. Disagree
  5. Disagree
  6. Agree
  7. Don’t Know (I think I agree, if it reduces pollution or something)
  8. Agree if you meant: Companies should not be allowed to bill people for time spent on hold
  9. Agree, only if they need it, not mandatory
  10. Disagree
  11. Agree
  12. Disagree
  13. Disagree
  14. Disagree
  15. Disagree
  16. Disagree
  17. Agree
  18. Agree
  19. Don’t know / understand
  20. Disagree
  21. Agree to an extent because most things can be considered work
  22. AGREE
  23. AGREE
  24. AGREE
  25. DISAGREE
  26. AGREE
  27. AGREE
  28. DISAGREE
  29. Agree only that: Communism has some promise in a perfect world
  30. Disagree
  31. Agree only that: Anarchism has some promise in a perfect world
  32. AGREE
  33. Disagree
  34. AGREE
  35. AGREE
  36. Don’t know
  37. Disagree: because evil should be resisted, by force if necessary
  38. AGREE
  39. Disagree, you should help those in need
  40. AGREE
  41. somewhat agree
  42. Agree

For your reading pleasure, Jerry Pournelle, Ph.D. (with degrees in political science and engineering as well as being a best-selling author) provides you with the Pournelle Axes. (The article is excerpted from a Baen-published book and was written by Pournelle)

I agree on only 4.

7,11,26,41

This is pretty fun. I had to stretch myself to give answers to some of these, but a few of these issues are just too complex or not specific enough as stated to reduce to a binaristic resolution, which is an inevitable consequence of polling and comparative studies. Of course I’m sure you recognize all that.

  1. D
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D; but raise your number here and I’d agree, anything over 1/4 billion, say, off the top of my head
  6. A
  7. A
  8. A
  9. A
  10. A
  11. A
  12. D
  13. D
  14. D
  15. Issue is too complex to reduce to D/A
  16. D
  17. D
  18. D
  19. Put a gun to my head and ask me to choose, and I’ll say “D,” but I’m more comfortable with “it depends”
  20. A
  21. A
  22. A
  23. D
  24. D
  25. A
  26. D, but clearly some exceptions, e.g.: Michael Milken’s digs.
  27. D
  28. D
  29. D
  30. D
  31. D (I’ve assumed here that you mean “anarchism” rather than “Ararchism”)
  32. A; but more than a few tweaks
  33. D
  34. D
  35. D
  36. D
  37. D
  38. A
  39. A (but I read “as much as possible” to mean that there are some situations in which we do need to interfere with one another’s actions)
  40. A
  41. A; but “efficiency” is not on the top of my priority list, at least not when it runs rampant and amuck and tramples on other values, such as ecology, care for the individual, justice, etc.
  42. A

I agree with only 1, 7, 11, 23, 25, 26, 28, 35, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, and 43.

Well, I’ll give it a shot.

  1. D
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D
  6. A
  7. A
  8. A
  9. A
  10. A
  11. A
  12. D
  13. D
  14. D
  15. D
  16. A
    18)D
    19)A
  17. D
  18. D
  19. A
  20. D
  21. D
    25)D
  22. A
  23. D
    28)D
  24. D
  25. D
  26. D
  27. D
  28. A
  29. A
  30. A
  31. A
  32. D
  33. D
  34. A
  35. D
  36. A
  37. A
  38. A
  1. D
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D
  6. A
  7. A
  8. D
  9. A
  10. A
  11. D
  12. D
  13. D
  14. D
  15. A
  16. D
  17. A
  18. A
  19. A
  20. D
  21. D
  22. D
  23. D
  24. D
  25. D
  26. A
  27. A

Blanks indicate confusion or indecision.

  1. A
  2. D
  3. pass
  4. D
  5. D
  6. A
  7. A
  8. A
  9. D
  10. A
  11. D
  12. A
  13. D
  14. A
  15. D
  16. D
  17. A
  18. A
  19. A
  20. A
  21. A
  22. pass
  23. D
  24. D
  25. D
  26. D
  27. A
  28. D
  29. D
  30. D
  31. D
  32. A
  33. D
  34. D
  35. A
  36. D
  37. D
  38. D
  39. A
  40. AAAAAAA :wink:
  41. D
  42. A
  1. People shouldn’t automatically have the right to reproduce <-- disagree with reservations
  2. Abolish private ownership of income-generating property <-- disagree with reservations
  3. Most prisons should be closed; give the inmates jobs and counseling <-- agree with reservations
  4. Armies should be replaced by lightly armed border guards <-- disagree with complicated reservations
  5. Fortunes over a million dollars should be confiscated <-- disagree with reservations
  6. National forests should be offlimits to logging <-- agree
  7. Move to a hydrogen economy <-- agree with reservations
  8. People should be allowed to bill companies for time spent on hold <-- depends on circumstances
  9. Kids of convicts should receive mentoring, tutoring, scholarships, etc <-- agree
  10. Low income seniors should get free drugs <-- agree
  11. The world’s institutions are patriarchal (based on male authority) <-- agree and oppose it
  12. There is no such thing as “mental illness” <-- agree
  13. There’s no need for a hierarchy of people having authority over others <-- agree
  14. We are weakening our species by allowing defective specimens to survive <-- disagree with side notes and acknowledgement of good points on other side
  15. Spend $ on expansion (into space, oceans) not internal problems <-- disagree
  16. Reach out toward the stars before the earth is rendered unlivable <-- disagree
  17. Guns should be encouraged, and shooting skills should be taught in schools <-- neutral
  18. Property tax should be abolished <-- disagree
  19. Intellectual property laws hurt humanity as a whole <-- disagree with many reservations
  20. I enjoy riding on public transportation <-- agree
  21. It’s valid to not want to work <-- disagree
  22. God exists <-- define “God”
  23. Homosexual behavior is a sin <-- disagree
  24. Heaven and Hell exist <-- define “Heaven” and “Hell”
  25. Underage drinking is wrong <-- disagree
  26. Prisons are too luxurious - make them do more hard labor <-- disagree
  27. Affirmative Action is racist <-- disagree with many reservations incl. acknowledgement of good points made on other side
  28. There is no place for guns in a civilized society <-- disagree
  29. Communism has some promise with a few tweaks here and there <-- disagree unless its critique of capitalism counts as “promise” in and of itself
  30. Socialism has some promise with a few tweaks here and there <-- disagree see above
  31. Ararchism has some promise with a few tweaks here and there <-- agree
  32. Libertarianism has some promise with a few tweaks here and there <-- agree
  33. There should be one world government <-- agree with lots and lots of disclaimers and reservations
  34. The government shouldn’t mess with the market <-- unable to answer as worded
  35. Industrial development, oil rigs, highways, etc aren’t ugly <-- agree (we’re talking aesthetics here, right?)
  36. We should exploit energy reserves in the ANWR <-- disagree
  37. No cause justifies violence <-- disagree but accept lots of limitations
  38. No cause justifies vandalism <-- disagree but accept lots of limitations
  39. We should all leave each other completely alone as much as possible <-- agree (if by “leave alone” you meain “refrain from coercing”)
  40. Limiting our individual freedoms will not stop terrorism <-- agree loudly
  41. Laisse-faire capitalism is the most efficient possible economic system <-- define “efficient” (for whom or what?)
  42. Society shouldn’t starve people into productivity <-- agree
  1. D
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D
  6. D
  7. A
  8. A
  9. A to mentoring and tutoring. D to scholarships.
  10. A
  11. D
  12. D
  13. D
  14. D
  15. fallacy of the excluded middle
  16. A
  17. D
  18. D
  19. D
  20. A
  21. A, but it’s not valid to expect to be compensated for that desire.
  22. A
  23. D
  24. D (heaven maybe, hell no)
  25. A (wrong may be a strong word, but I agree with a legal drinking age.)
  26. A
  27. A
  28. D
  29. D (more than a few tweaks)
  30. D
  31. D
  32. A
  33. A (ideally, eventually, but not yet)
  34. A
  35. A
  36. A
  37. D
  38. D
  39. A
  40. A
  41. A (that we know of)
  42. ? what? I guess D

Maybe the problem is the inadequacy of the concept of summing up opinions according to a left/right spectrum. Are you familiar with the idea of using a diamond pattern instead? Also called the Nolan chart?

Fascinating! Thank you, Polycarp!

This is similar to the Nolan chart, but perhaps better. I need to delve into it more.

And before reading this, it never occured to me that some people might want to hang on to the inadequate left/right spectrum out of a desire to render murky their actual position.

I’m trying to get away from all of those we-know-the-predefined-dimensions type models of opinion space, and create something more open ended.

In other words I’m not making a map of what political space SHOULD be according to some meaningful classification scheme, but what it is (here anyway), even if that puts socialists in the center next to fascists and anarchists.

One thing that’s really interesting so far is the structural importance of religion, universalism (#34 & maybe 20) and libertarianism as bridges between the left and right.

So far (and this interpretation reveals my bias), the right seems divided into sortof the rhetorical whatever-sounds-the-meanest right (the anti-emotional right? questions 1+15+18+27) and sincere free market / religious conservatism (these two are surprisingly close, which reminds me of Tom Frank’s hilarious little essay “The God that Sucked.” http://www.thebaffler.com/gts.html)

My turn.

  1. Disagree (D)
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D (and childish!)
  6. Agree (A)
  7. Insufficient information
  8. A
  9. Insufficient information
  10. D
  11. A
  12. D
  13. D
  14. D
  15. D
  16. D
  17. D
  18. D
  19. D
  20. A
  21. D
  22. D
  23. D
  24. D
  25. D
  26. D
  27. D
  28. D
  29. D
  30. A
  31. D
  32. A
  33. D
  34. D
  35. A
  36. A
  37. A
  38. A
  39. A
  40. A
  41. D
  42. A
  1. D
  2. D
  3. D
  4. D
  5. D
  6. A
  7. D
  8. A
  9. A
  10. A
  11. A
  12. D
  13. D
  14. A
  15. A
  16. A
  17. D
  18. D
  19. D
  20. D
  21. A
  22. A
  23. D
  24. A
  25. D
  26. A
  27. A
  28. D
  29. A
  30. A
  31. D
  32. A
  33. D
  34. A
  35. D
  36. D
  37. D
  38. D
  39. A
  40. A
  41. D
  42. A
  1. D
  2. D
  3. A
  4. D
  5. D
  6. D
  7. D
  8. D
  9. D
  10. D
  11. D
  12. D
  13. A
  14. A

All other questions lacked enough data to express an opinion on.