hey, quiet you peppers! don’t make me oregano you this thyme! kiss my cinnamon!
No, this is quite true sometimes, not generally, but sometimes.
#3 does exist. Most definitely.
I personally don’t understand the use of pussy as an insult anyway. How is calling someone one name of the very bestest/funnest part of the female anatomy, the part I want to “get” in the deepest (sorry, no pun intended, but I will take it regardless) most biological way possible supposed to be an insult? Let’s convert the word pussy in a sentence, shall we?
"Hey you fucking loser, come back here and fight me, quit being a <object of my obsession, when the merest thought of your warm wetness causes me to want to have sex, whose taste and smell make me think of pleasing you orally, doing whatever it takes to help you achieve orgasm… yada yada yada.> "
Yeah, that makes sense.
I don’t think it is misogynistic statement, dumb, sure, but misogynistic? No.
If the pussy was the sole defining trait of a woman, and hence all women, and not simply one attribute of their biological makeup, I could see where you are coming from, but it isn’t. (And what about transgendered women who don’t have pussies per se?)
If he had said that modern society is going all girly and weak, that would be different, but the idea of pussy = yellow = weak and/or cowardly is removed far enough from the main definition of what a woman is to remove the insult power it has. I am not saying that misogynists don’t use pussy in a derogatory manner, but I don’t think it can be assumed from that usage.
Tars Tarkas: Yes. Sophistry has been addressed.
World Eater: Then you haven’t listened to yourself.
D_Odds: You’re free to use whichever putdowns you want. Just be expected to get called on them if someone finds them offensive. If you don’t care that you offend, then insult away.
erislover: Must you defend everyone who gets Pitted? Don’t you have anything better to do then defend idiots?
FranticMad: Obviously we disagree about the evidence.
Fuck off d_odds.
Homebrew, the point of insults is to offend someone. Whether you doing it in fun amongst close friends, or in anger at the cell-phone using idiot in ths SUV that just ran you off the road, offensiveness is the goal. So, if someone calls me on the use of a particular word…“He shoots. He scores! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!”
Homebrew, what type of microscope do you use to find your offense in things?
i love the “i can insult someone however i want, but if you insult a third party in a way i don’t like, you are a woman hater” logic. makes me feel all warm. from the steam coming off that fresh big crap, of course!
I’m still confused. When I called that guy in front of me at the traffic light a son of a bitch, was I offending him, his mother, or dogs?
You may be able to make an argument about the nature of a culture from what it chooses to include in the insult grab-bag, but I don’t think you can go from there to imputing those characteristics to anyone who uses one of those insults. I may well call someone a bastard, because that’s part of the cultural vocabulary and has been for quite some time, but I’d be hard pressed to say exactly what stereotypical characteristics of children of unwed parents I’m supposed to be calling upon.
Women (at least the women I know) don’t use it in front of men, and they use it tongue-in-cheek. It’s not the same.
And yes, when a man uses that word (especially within earshot of women) he is telling the other guy that he’s weak, afraid, not good enough, not smart enough to weigh the options, whatever. I don’t know how you could NOT take it to be anti-women.
My post was a defense? Of whom? I was glad your searching paid off, I’d hate to see someone start a pit thread exclusively over “pussification” or whatever. But I was doubtful you’d pit yourself over making such a generalization that would lead to such a search in the first place, that’s all. Sorry I didn’t play the “if I’m not with him I’m with you” game.
And, sure, I have plenty better things to do. Why, I could be curing cancer right now. Instead I felt like reading your post. Crazy ol’ world. 
As usual, I am far behind the language crowd. I had always considered “pussy” used as an insult for “chicken” to be a double entendre on “scaredy cat”. I’d say you learn something every day, but I don’t know that I’ve learned anything here yet. Did I miss an etymology link? I tried at MW but they had no use of “pussy” like that listed. Well, whatever.
This is one sad ass thread. For the good of the world it should be shot and put out of its misery. Its like a train wreck thread without the entertaining meltdowns and bitter personal attacks.
Although:
Was classic and should be relocated to a non-sucky thread.
Jeez, World Eater talk about finding offense where none is intended. I was joking with you, not at your expense.
Let me edit and clarify:
Better?
(For the record, anytime anyone seriously invokes the CIA secretly controlling the world, they instantly move ahead. Most of lekatt’s post easily are stupider. Moon hoax landing and creationist theories also are much stupider)
Well Kalhoun I must say you are quite the fucking idiot.
I prefer my insults tailored to an individual rather than randomly insulting groups of people. But, again, you’re free to be boorish if you wish.
Tars Tarkas: Ask the women in your life (I’m assuming you actually have some who speak to you) how they feel about it.
Sorry about that, I missed the smiley on my post, but figured you got it. Your whoosh was much more obvious then mine.
How about some tea next sunday?
The main woman in my life uses the term more often than I do (especially when I get sick).
You know, it seems to me that when “pussy” is used as an insult, it refers to short forms of other words. “Pussycat” for example, generally refers to someone who tries to appear mean but is actually nice. So calling someone a “pussy” is the same as saying they’re all talk and no action. There’s also “pussyfooter”, meaning the person is wishy-washy and won’t take a stand. Then of course there’s “pusillanimous”, which is a fifty dollar word for “coward”.
But since “pussy” is also a vulgar word for a woman’s reproductive organ, it just makes that word sound nastier when the speaker is talking smack.
I think if you’re going to accuse anybody of misogyny, you’re going to have to dig a little deeper than scream when they say “pussy”. I don’t know, find evidence that they’re wife beaters, rapists, insane, that sort of thing.
It is no different than years ago when I told an ex-boyfiend(that is most certainly on purpose, trust me) that I would not get back together with him, he called me a faggot at the top of his lungs as he left.
It does imply some internalize loathing in the though that you believe an aspect of you should be an insult to others.
Some people might argue that by directing it at an individual, you are directing it at an individual. Your problem is you are taking things out of context and throwing common sense to the wind. I would guess that 99% of people equate calling someone a pussy with meaning they are a wimp, a wussy, or a scaredy cat. **
:rolleyes:
I think Knowed Out says it well.
Doesn’t Ian McKellen usually call himself “the old queen?” At least he did on SNL.
And does it make me a homophobe if I find McKellen strangely attractive…?
And what the hell is a “ravi?” 