Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

On the specs tab of this page, it has the depth as 14,763 ft (4,500 m).

I couldn’t find the 200 meter depth you mentioned…

It’s on page 2, the specs page, of this PDF that you linked to earlier. “Depth Rating – 656 ft (200 m)”

Must be different models.

ETA: I see that some of the other specs are different, too, so they must be different models.

How many ping pong balls will it take to re-float the plane?

Too labour-intensive. First, each ping-pong ball must first be punctured with a pin to allow the water in to equalize the pressure, or each ball will be crushed.

Then a second hole must be punched in each ball to let the water out when the balls are four miles down.

Paraphrasing ship engineer Montgomery Scott, it’s not just the balls. It’s the water.

they give zero minutes to the crew in regards to fire. You’re confusing smoke with fire.

The minister said a lot of things. There should be radar returns from other countries that match up. The lack of cooperation and any accountability from Malaysia makes it difficult to determine what information is real.

The United States chose to review the information and search in an entirely different location.

The U.S.-made Bluefin 21 was launched late Monday on a planned 16-hour search of the sea bed for any sign of the data recorder from Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. But after just six hours, the autonomous vessel had reached its maximum depth and its safety devices returned it to the surface, Australia’s Joint Agency Coordination Centre said in a news release.

Officials were extracting and analyzing the data that was collected, the agency said, adding that Bluefin 21 would resume its search later in the day when the weather improved.

http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/04/14/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-submarine-search/7723333/

Previous post should be in quote box. Missed the edit window.

odds of anyone ever finding anything of substance on this deal?

i’m shooting at ought to 9%. dang near letting go of any interest in favor of rational thinking which is that we’ll simply never find nor know. sitting around WAGging endlessly hasn’t really resolved anything…

Pilot suicide seems evidentially as likely as godzilla ate them.
almost all plausible outcomes require a suspension of logic. considering not a shred of evidence has been found so far, what do we do at this point? we as a truth-seeking public?

So you’re suggesting there were naked flames in the cockpit and the pilots were consumed by fire? So what put out the fire in the cockpit? There’s no fire suppression in there other than hand held extinguishers, but you need pilots to operate those. I’d be more willing to accept that the pilots simply didn’t put the masks on rather than there was a fire serious enough to incapacitate the crew while they were wearing masks but was also somehow extinguished before doing anything other than superficial damage to some but not all comms equipment.

It’s as close to official information as we are going to get. The INMARSAT data would have enough information to know roughly what it did. If it tracked west first then most of the INMARSAT pings would show it moving gradually further away. Interestingly the AUSAR graphics have been showing the presumed track to start to the west of the Malay peninsular.

If it didn’t track west across the peninsular then I’d agree that a mechanical problem is reasonably likely, although I’m finding the fire scenario a bit hard to swallow.

There’s lots of evidence. Not enough to know why it happened, but enough to rule out some possible causes, like being eaten by Godzilla but not pilot suicide. What’s left is the mental exercise of debating/arguing about what the most likely reason is. Think of it as a real live mystery novel.

All that’s left to learn is *which *of the two crewmembers did it, and why. The black boxes may not help resolve that even if they’re retrieved.

There may be lots of evidence, but we the concerned public don’t know hardly any of it. Because of all that’s been claimed, denied, claimed again, changed, withdrawn, etc., I don’t consider any of it trustworthy. When I start seeing pictures of bodies and plane pieces being hauled out of the water, then I’ll reconsider the explanations of how they got there.

Couldn’t have been Godzilla. They weren’t anywhere near the Sea of Japan.

I understand Godzilla is a fast swimmer.

I wonder how many people in Australia are thinking “This was a Malaysian plane, built in America, and headed to China, crashed out in the middle of the fucking ocean. How the bleedin’ 'ell is it *our *problem, mate?”

That’s true. Those kaiju do tend to get around.

As far as I know we don’t view it as a “problem”. I’m not aware of any grumbling about the expense for instance. Personally I think that if the P3s are going to be flying around burning holes in the air they may as well be doing something useful. If they weren’t doing this they’d just be flying training missions or assisting Customs aircraft with their border patrol ops. The same goes for the surface assets. Also, there were a number of Australians on board which makes it our problem.

i guess i still don’t consider there being any “evidence” of pilot suicide. i understand of all the speculative outcomes, it’s one of the easier ones to believe, so a rational mind must default to “that MUST be what happened,” but this isn’t based on ‘evidence’ as in anything a court could use to make a ruling–it seems to be based on a lack of answers rather than *indications *of answers.

correct me if i’m wrong. but have they officially released any information that is particularly damning to the pilot or copilot? other than some very tacit connections to a radical political stance, and speculation of a falling out w his family, there isn’t any history of mental illness, substance abuse, weird insurance or trust shufflings, or any other strong indications of a planned suicide (that i am aware of).

Someone on CNN had an interesting suggestion, “What if the co-pilot was locked out of the cockpit when he turned on his cell phone and tried to make contact with someone”?

I have an interesting suggestion for CNN: Why don’t they start reporting other news instead of endlessly treading stale water?