Man committed to mental hospital for being fat

Link.

Any UK Dopers have any insight on this one? Just where the hell do the authorities get off??

That may not be a worksafe link to The Sun, since there are thumbnails of page 3 models on that page…

To get “sectioned” ie committed two doctors and a specialist social worker have to sign a form that states the person is a danger to self or others or requires medical treatment to prevent serious harm.

The pressure on mental health beds in the NHS is so acute that they don’t admit people unless they are really sick (wander around any UK town and you will see no end of people who need treatment but have been discharged owing to lack of beds. You will also see plenty of fatties) .

In short I suspect tha there is more to this than the Sun (not a reliable news source BTW) is letting on.

Mind you he is a fat knacker.

Owl - no sylph himself.

It’s an interesting question. Having been quite substantially fat, and not, in my life I wouldn’t want to be dragged off to an institution, but in this case this guy is into a level of obesity that will likely end his life before too long.

He has a real and deadly psychological problem, and I really, really, doubt loving mom is going to be able to do much to help him. We see the stories about 600-1200 lb people pulled dying or dead out of bedrooms, swimming in their own waste and encrusted (literally) to couches and sheets and wonder “How the hell did this happen?”

Unless you’re 8 feet tall once you start pushing past 500-600 lbs there a very serious psychological problem involved, and it’s time people acknowledged it as a pathology, not a valid lifestyle choice. The issue is obviously what the trigger points for intervention are, or should be. It’s a slippery slope lubricated with olive oil and butterfat, but I think there should be enforced counseling of some sort for people like this once you get inot the uber morbid levels of obesity.

The difficult thing is that even super morbid obesity really is a compartmentalized disease. Even when I was lumberingly overweight I was a (mostly) perfectly rational actor in all areas but food consumption. If someone had packed me off to an isntituation for being (mumble) lbs overweight I would have been appalled, but once you’re rounding the 300 + lbs overweight area IMO you need help, even if it’s coercive.

My suspicion is: Political pressure due to publicity. In other words, if the poor lout hadn’t been the subject of a documentary, the lock-up would never have happened.

“The difficult thing is that even super morbid obesity really is a compartmentalized disease. Even when I was lumberingly overweight I was a (mostly) perfectly rational actor in all areas but food consumption. If someone had packed me off to an isntituation for being (mumble) lbs overweight I would have been appalled, but once you’re rounding the 300 + lbs overweight area IMO you need help, even if it’s coercive.”

300 lbs [over] your normal bodyweight, not 300 + lbs bodyweight.

“isntituation” = institution

I didn’t even notice that!

Be warned, folks. They’re tiny, but they’re there.

With all due respect, who is he hurting but himself? Short of falling on someone, of course. I can’t see the right any gov’t has to tell us how we can treat our own bodies.

There’s also the question of why he is zeppelin-sized. he may well be suffering from depression or some other malady that makes him seek refuge in cakes. It maybe that which is the reason for the sectioning.

In any case - if he feels he is in the wrong place he can appeal to the Mental Health Tribunal who will look at the case (they’re independent).

He surely can’t be happy in any case.

It’s a form of self harm and people are sectioned for that all the time.

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Actually, according to the article…

Sounds like a medical condition, more than a mental one.

The government does that in plenty of circumstances. I would say a great many mental illnesses don’t affect other people, but a person can still be a danger to himself and need treatment as a result.

But it sounds like he has a brain chemical imbalance, not a mental illness. Since when does the UK involuntarily commit someone for a physical ailment? Isn’t that like committing someone who has refused conventional treatment for cancer and is seeking hololistic cures?

…followed by:

Two posts that fit together almost poetically.

The Sun is not a reliable newspaper (think National Enquirer…)

Because, according to a very one-sided article, it’s Chris and Chris’s mother who claim that he has this disorder. There was no mention of any independent diagnosis.

For all we know, he could just be any obese person who claims their excess weight on a non-existent physical ailment.

Robin

Prader-willi syndrome is a genetic disorder characterized by short stature, mental retardation etc etc. Linkety link …that boy doesn’t look short and doesn’t appear mentally retarded to me!

Prader-Willi is not something that is daignosed on a whim. It requires karyotyping, so if he has it, he HAS it.

It’s not about eating too much food. It’s about eating anything that’s not nailed down. Children with Prader-Willi have eaten their pet goldfish for example. Parents are told to do a daily shop and padlock cupboards and fridges.

If the authorities don’t think he and his mother are able to restrict his food intake to that kind of level, they may have made a sensible decision.

I did not know that. What are considered the reliable papers over there?

Then, in that case, they have a right to commit people based on a lack of willpower?

(I know that’s not all there is to obesity. But if there’s nothing physically or mentally wrong with him, is it right to involuntarily commit him just because he’s overweight?)