If you know this for sure, you’d better phone the FBI and tell them. They’ll be really interested in how you came by such information.
You can let them know at https://tips.fbi.gov/
It’s obvious how he knew, isn’t it? He’s not the only one in the thread who thinks ESP is the way to handle these situations!
My mistake. In which case go to www.randi.org and collect your $1,000,000
From above link.
This other article says the picture of the locking device would be on the FBI website ww.fbi.gov but I didn’t see anything (obvious) there on the home page or a search of the site on the word “collar”.
Cops have magic keys that open those kind of locking devices. The fact they didn’t use them means they wanted the pizza guy to die. It was a revenge thing. The pizza guy once delived a cold pizza to the Chief of Police’s wife.
Hey, it could be true. Just ask Mr. B.
Oooohh. You bait me good. I was sleeping.
I think the debate is really kicking. For that, I’m very happy. My greatest problem with all this has been the general lack of outrage at the police’s lack of readiness. This is the Day of the Strap-On Bomb. How many warnings do we need before there’s a call to action? For what are we compromising our rights via USA PATRIOT – Carnivore?
Re: OD guy, If a fellow calls 911 himself, then refuses medical help, the cops/parameds out here will take him into custody for a)obstruction or b) proper medical aid. His choice, on the spot.
Monty: No, I don’t generally dislike cops, I dislike the bureaucratic mentality that pervades The Force, almost uniformly throughout our great land. The plodding footsoldier in the war against depravity, sidestepping justice because his administrative load is simply to onerous. (Sounds like a neat movie trailer, huh?)
Desmo: So the Feebs think the coppers did a good job? Not exactly a scintillating track record from the Bureau, though.
Regarding the newest information: a friend in Europe who’s seen the uncut version says the bomb was dangling off his neck, not attached to his chest. If this is so, then one of my original remedies was in fact, valid. Put the bomb in the bomb tank and close the lid, let the guy take his chances.
The fact is there was roughly 40 minutes on the clock from the time he robbed “el banco incommunicado.” A town the size of Erie should be able to motivate a bomb tank in fairly short order – I lived in Crunchy-crunchy Boulder, CO and they got a bomb squad from the mall to the Courthouse in 5 minutes, fer chrissakes. (And I know, because I was there when they evacuated the building.)
There is a situation in Erie that hasn’t been mentioned here. I grew up there, and the fact is that the city is, or was, bisected by many railroad tracks with few alternative routes to get from the north side of town to the south side. Assuming this hasn’t changed in the 25 years since I left (an absurd assumption, but it could happen), this could be an important factor. The police station is downtown, and the location this happened in was on the outskirts of town, It is entirely possible that the vehicle carrying the bomb squad might’ve had to take several detours to get around the train traffic, which can be heavy. This was the first thing I thought of when I heard that squad didn’t get there on time. And I would be very surprised if they have a helicopter, although it isn’t completely out of the question.
I love posters with ESP!
Not only does Mr. B know the cause of death (which hasn’t been released by the coroner). he also knows who made the call for medical assistance. All the rest of us know is that
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Outstanding!
Shouldn’t you technically be pissed at the bomb squad’s lack of readyness?
After all the cops were there 3 minutes after the call.
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How many other strap on bombs have we dealt with lately?
Only thing remotely close I can think of is Atlanta in 19 fucking 96!
Let’s spend millions preparing for a contingency that at best has happened 5 times in the last decade. You really are a part of the problem.
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…is pretty funny when followed by…
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Nice Brush you got there Picasso.
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Pick a target and stick with it, the FBI wasn’t even there.
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Yeah, well my cousin’s sister who knew this girl in high school said that the bomb was tight around the neck.
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You aren’t even making sense here, the thing was around his fucking neck, how do you protect against that?
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Maybe they were busy, perhaps they needed to go grab their gear, perhaps they had a flat, who the fuck knows?
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So, because a bomb squad just happened to show up once to a place in 5 minutes, that naturally means that a bomb squad can show up anywhere in the country at anytime of day within 5 minutes.
I weep for the future.
No, that is not the fact. The fact is that there were 40 minutes from when he walked in to the bank to the time the bomb went off, inside which time an awful lot had to happen before the police could have known to send for the bomb squad. Your insistence on this distortion of time is verging on outright dishonesty.
I think he is temporally impaired.
Well, let’s not rule out stupid.
…too onerous. Sorry, really just a typo.
Me too. But there are plenty of things you can do: make your voice be heard about the horrible state of affairs in this country! I think you should contact your city government and discover their bomb readiness plan. If there is none in place, press them on it!
Tapioca: Re ESP, I just clicked on the link to the MSNBC article. Sorry I made it seem like this was the definitive cause of death. Not my intention. But the cops should’ve arrested the guy at least, just for bugging them via 911.
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“An autopsy on the body of 43-year-old Robert Pinetti, conducted on Monday was inconclusive as to the cause of death, but District Attorney Brad Falk said at the news conference Tuesday that preliminary results of toxicology tests showed that Pinetti had methadone and valium-type drugs in his system which could have caused a drug overdose. Pinetti had a history of substance abuse, Falk said.”
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Dead Badger: I do not verge. He walked into the bank at 2:30. Police pulled him over at 2:33. Bomb went bang at 3:20. Sorry, 37 minutes, not 40. My bad.
Monty: not stupid. See below.
I doing my part, mostly by trying to shed some of the ignorance which some of our more peabrained citizens (read:you) seem to be possessed by.
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I think you should contact your city government and discover their bomb readiness plan. If there is none in place, press them on it!
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I think NYC might a bomb readiness plan, I’m not sure but I’ll get back to you on that.
I doing my part, mostly by trying to shed some of the ignorance which some of our more peabrained citizens (read:you) seem to be possessed by.
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I think NYC might a bomb readiness plan, I’m not sure but I’ll get back to you on that.
Noble, albeit barely intelligible. <grin>
So you can just sit there in your Ivory Tower. The rest of us need to know what’s afoot in our own towns. [glory, glory hallelujiah] It’s time we Americans get up off our duffs and become involved in our own governance! Do your part and lead by your example! [/glory, glory hallelujah]
And if you’d listened to the FBI conference, they say that paramedics turned up to the scene, not police officers.
I don’t know what happened, you don’t know what happened, neither the police nor the FBI know what happened. Why don’t you shut the fuck up?