MANDATORY death sentences? Fuck off Singapore.

Fair enough. Thanks for finally responding.

I just can’t see a huge increase in users of hard drugs following legalization. I doubt that most people who use drugs that they know could kill them are deterred by the slight chance of arrest. Again I have to ask why we did not have a nation full of cocaine and heroin addicts at the turn of the 20th century?

Criminalization does nothing but compound the problem. Compare a cleaned-up heroin junky who was once convicted of possession, to a recovering alcoholic who never got convicted of a crime. Which of them do you think will have an easier time finding a job when he gets out of rehab?

Well, there are plenty of addicts as it is. Do you really think legalization will produce so many more addicts that costs of their healthcare will outweigh the tens of billions of dollars a year currently spent on the drug war?

Do we allow teachers and nurses to show up to work drunk?

Who says cocaine would have to be sold in a pill? And who says that the industry would have to be innovative? Cocaine HCl is cocaine HCl, whether it’s being used in 1875, or in 2075.

Also, from what I’ve heard (no personal experience), addicts tend not to like Methadone because the euphoric effects of it are far less pronounced than other opiates.

Sure, why not? Why should one man’s poison be sold openly, while another’s lands him in prison?

R&D? We’re talking about drugs that have been around for more than a century, here! Additionally, many of these drugs are already being produced by pharmaceutical companies. Methamphetamine and cocaine are both Schedule II drugs in the U.S., and heroin is available by prescription in the U.K.

Supply chain and liability issues don’t make for a very compelling argument either, when you consider the legal intoxicants that have to jump over the same hurdles. The companies that produce them still manage to remain profitable, and their products are still affordable.

These concerns of yours seem rather pedantic when compared to the obscene monetary costs and social problems borne entirely of the War on Drugs.

I don’t know if Oxycontin is such a good example. AFAIK, it’s still under patent, which drives the cost up. Also, it’s a time-release medication. Those tend to be more expensive than their shorter-acting cousins. The last time I was prescribed oxycodone (for the removal of my wisdom teeth a few years back), the stuff was dirt cheap. Hydrocodone, too - hell, that stuff is the single most frequently prescribed drug in the United States, at over 92 million prescriptions written every year. The cocktail of amphetamines known as Adderall is pretty high up on that list, as well.

Then we must have one kick-ass plan for legally distributing alcohol, because I’m not seeing too many Capone-style bootlegging gangs roaming the country.

neutron star, you have more patience than I do, that’s for sure. I tend not to pay attention to others when it comes to an issue like this. I mean, I know the arguements, they just don’t mean anything to me.

That being said, I was always under the impression that stuff like cocaine and heroine would be sold in pharmacies rather than liquor stores.

I, for one, wouldn’t do any of the drugs should they be legalized and those who prefer not to do any drugs probably wouldn’t either.

This comment made me thin of something I never considerd before. If all drugs were leaglized, wouldn’t there be companies who would actually invest in develloping new drugs? New drugs do already appear currently, but wouldn’t laboratories create drugs R&D departments, and wouldn’t a lot of new drugs appear on a regular basis? Would this be an issue, or not?

I agree with you about the death penalty in general. I hate it for any crime. Unfortunately, we do have the death penalty and it is possible to get it if they frame you for murder. It seems to me that it would be much easier to frame someone for drugs than for murder. Or what if you weren’t framed, but rather a drug dealer snuck the drugs into your bag with the intent of recovering said drugs later? I don’t think this comparison is as simple as you think it is.

To a certain degree, corporations are already doing this. Stronger opiate derivatives are being developed for pain, and stimulants are being developed to promote wakefulness, and to aid in weight loss.

Well, soft drug legalization is a no-brainer, but I think that there’s still room for reasoned debate on the merits of such a plan for hard drugs, and since such a small portion of the populace agrees with me on the issue, I do like to state my case when given the opportunity. Sometimes there are angles that criminalization proponents may not have considered.

I think that making the drugs harder to obtain would only serve to carve a nice little niche for illegal drug dealers.

I’d like to put them out of business entirely.

I more or less agree with you now; I guess I’d be really concerned about this if there seemed to be widespread incidence of this kind of framing, or any at all, for that matter. Is there though?

Given that hypocritical is defined as

and hyprocrisy is defined as

Ummm…what is hypocritical about their laws? They state very, very, VERY clearly that you will incur the death penalty if you engage in the drug trade. Nothing hypocritical about that.