Immediately held in contempt, I imagine.

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Immediately held in contempt, I imagine.
Defendant’s have a right to defend themselves pro se. Perhaps he’s waived it by getting this far down the road. (I haven’t seen it happen mid trial). Judges hate pro se defendants, as they don’t know or follow the rules. I don’t see Trump actually doing this, so it’s probably moot. But in theory, he could. (He shouldn’t --and needn’t-- do it in front of the jury though)
So based on the cross examination it seems the the defense is setting up two arguments. One that Cohen acted alone to send the hush money, (and Trump just coincidentally sent him that exact amount in legal fees), and two that Trump wanted Daniels silenced not for political purposes but for personal purposes, that it would ruin Meliana’s view of Trump as the pure devoted monogamist that she fell in love with (while he was another woman’s husband).
I can see how either of these being true defeats the prosecutions case, but I don’t see how the defense can argue both of them at the same time. If the entire plan was Cohen’s idea then Trumps motivation is irrelevant, since he didn’t initiate that payment. It would seem that in order to maintain any semblance of credibility they would need to pick one or the other. I am curious how they will try to paper over this contradiction in their closing arguments.
Indeed.
Let’s go back to the key part of the jury instructions
In order for you to find the defendant guilty of this crime, the People are required to prove, from all of the evidence in the case, beyond a reasonable doubt, each of the following two elements:
1.That on or about (date) , in the county of (county) , the defendant, (defendant’s name),
made or caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise; …
2.That the defendant did so with intent to defraud that included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
(My emphasis)
https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/cji/2-PenalLaw/175/175.10.docx
That’s what the jury is going go be asked to find. That the defendant, donald, caused a false business record, in the form of a payment for legal services that were never provided.
So the boring accounting stuff becomes useful if it shows that false records were made, and/or that donald caused that.
From CNN
Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo is asking about a conversation Jeffery McConney had with Allen Weisselberg.
“Al said, ‘we have to get some money to Michael, reimburse Michael,’” McConney testifies. “I started taking notes on what Allen said.”…
The jury is now being shown the notes Jeffrey McConney took on the conversation about Michael Cohen’s payments on a Trump Organization notepad.
Trump looked forward at the screen in front of him to look at the note.
“This was during the first meeting when we realized we owed Michael money,” McConney say. “The top starts with Michael Cohen payment for January 20, 2017, the 20th was crossed out and replaced with 27th," McConney says, explaining the notes in the exhibit…
Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo is now walking Jeffrey McConney through a series of emails, including Michael Cohen telling McConney “thank you for the reminder” to send invoices. McConney responded asking for an invoice so they could send him a check.
Cohen then asked for a reminder of the amount. McConney responded with $35,000, and Cohen sent in the body of the email with an invoice dated February 14, 2017.
McConney says this was sufficient as an invoice. “As long as it got approved, yes," McConney says…
Jeffrey McConney said the $35,000 was to be wired to Michael Cohen monthly beginning February 1, 2017.
The wire was to be sent from Donald Trump’s personal account, McConney testified.
McConney explained the corresponding handwritten note says “wired monthly from DJT.”…
“Did there come a time when you switched from using the trust account to using the DJT account [donald Trump’s personal bank account] to pay for the invoices to Mr. Cohen?” Prosecutor Matthew Colangelo asked.
“Yes.” McConney answered. In order to get the signatures required they had to send the checks down to Washington so Trump could sign them, McConney said. "Whole new process for us,” McConney testified…
The jury is now seeing the general ledger of the trust account from 2017.
It shows the three payments made to Michel Cohen under “legal expenses.” They total $105,000 for January, February and March 2017.
McConney is also looking at the general ledger of Trump’s personal account in 2017. It shows the nine payments made to Cohen from April to December 2017. They’re described as “legal expenses” and total $315,000, McConney confirms.
Each of the general ledger line items listed as a retainer agreement payment to Cohen are tied to individual counts of falsifying business records in the indictment against Donald Trump…
Jeffery McConney identifies Trump’s signature as prosecutors walk through a financial disclosure document.
“I’ve seen it many times,” he says.
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We are on to re-direct which is expected to be quick. We’ll get someone new today probably after lunch.
Edit: And he is done and we will get someone new after lunch
I’m pretty sure Trump is trying to get himself thrown in jail because it would be the ultimate act of “political interference” by the judge.
I think Trump’s been operating under the assumption that no judge would dare put him in jail for contempt. Trump can scarcely stand to be at the trial and has no desire to spend any time in jail. Hopefully Merchan has made Trump see the light and he knows jail is on the table. But then I hope he can’t help himself and spends some time in behind bars.
No, you can’t. The Secret Service is there to protect him from others, no to protect others from him.
It couldn’t be that hard to just assign one guy to look the other way.
It would make the Secret Service look real bad.
And he is done and we will get someone new after lunch
My prediction is that it is
- Deborah Tarasoff —Tarasoff is “TO [Trump Organization] Accounts Payable Supervisor” in the statement of facts. At the direction of other Trump Organization officials, Tarasoff allegedly prepared the checks used to reimburse Cohen and falsely recorded those checks as “legal expenses” in the organization’s bookkeeping.
The list of potential witnesses read during jury selection for Trump's criminal trial in New York could indicate the direction of the case.
Est. reading time: 14 minutes
Eric Trump and Alina Habba are in the gallery today
Oh, goody! She’s Trump’s good luck charm!
a false entry in the business records…
That’s what the jury is going go be asked to find.
This has been all been kind of boring accounting stuff.
Yes, this is true – in a normal case. The jury would be tasked with finding boring accounting stuff about a false entry in the business records
But this is not a normal case.
And in the privacy of the jury room, they will probably realize it. They may spend more time discussing the ramifications of their decision, than discussing the boring facts which lead to that decision…
The jury is not just tasked with analyzing business records…those 12 average folks are tasked with making history.
If they send a very popular president to jail, their names will get discovered and blasted all over the internet, and into the history books. Their personal lives will be destroyed.
I imagine that at least one of those 12 average folks will get scared.
I expect a hung jury.
Sending a Six-Year old to bed without dessert is an appropriate punishment, so this seems to track.
…he’s clearly absolutely terrified of going to prison
What’s your evidence? Not necessarily disagreeing, but what have you seen/heard that supports this statement? Aside from common sense, of course, which doesn’t apply here.
If they send a very popular president to jail, their names will get discovered and blasted all over the internet, and into the history books. Their personal lives will be destroyed.
I imagine that at least one of those 12 average folks will get scared.
I expect a hung jury.
Possible, but… the judge, even after the initial seating, did grant leave for those who felt too at risk, or too overwhelmed by the responsibility. Yes, things will be different once they are in deliberations, but the ones most at risk have probably already left. It doesn’t make me certain by any means, but I’m glad those who thought they couldn’t take it were able to speak their concerns and be let loose.
A hung jury is still IMHO more likely from someone who refuses, for “reasons” to convict Trump, if not because they’re a secret MAGA zealot, but because of some other personal reason is more likely still - but I have to trust that the lawyers involved have a good read on the jury.
If they send a very popular president to jail, their names will get discovered and blasted all over the internet, and into the history books. Their personal lives will be destroyed.
What happens if they don’t convict a very despised former president for crimes he obviously committed.
If they send a very popular president to jail, their names will get discovered and blasted all over the internet, and into the history books.
Trump is neither “President” nor is he “very popular”.
I am not going to assume that both sides would react the same way to a unwanted verdict.
I can see how either of these being true defeats the prosecutions case, but I don’t see how the defense can argue both of them at the same time. If the entire plan was Cohen’s idea then Trumps motivation is irrelevant, since he didn’t initiate that payment. It would seem that in order to maintain any semblance of credibility they would need to pick one or the other. I am curious how they will try to paper over this contradiction in their closing arguments.
Could they argue that, for purely personal reasons, Trump often mused aloud that he sure wished the story would go away so as not to threaten his marriage or whatever, and that’s why Cohen deduced that making the payment in question would sure make Trump happy and be in his best interests as a private citizen and thus and such?
So, y’know, kind of like claiming it was a steady stream of Will No One Rid Me Of This Turbulent Priest statements — but, they add, each was only ever paired with a Because He Might Piss Off My Wife rider?
What happens if they don’t convict a very despised former president for crimes he obviously committed.
Not to mention, the jury had no problem in Trump’s civil trial. I think the myth of Teflon Don is ignoring recent history.