cnn update:
As Trump attorney Todd Blanche delivers the defense team’s closing argument, some jurors are intently watching him.
Other jurors are glancing down at the monitors where the testimony and documents are displayed. A few seem to be looking around more.
Trump attorney Todd Blanche argues that Michael Cohen also lied about conversations with Trump related to the Karen McDougal deal.
Blanche highlights ex-National Enquirer publisher David Pecker’s testimony that Trump told him, “I don’t buy stories” and Cohen saying Trump told him, “no problem I will take care of it.”
“Which one is true?” Blanche asks. “You know that the Trump Organization, President Trump, Michael Cohen never paid Mr. Pecker a penny for the McDougal stories. There’s no dispute about it.”
This was the conversation Trump had with Pecker in summer of 2016 over the phone while Pecker was meeting with investors at Chatham.
Blanche alleges that Cohen made up his testimony about a lunch with Pecker in September 2016 when Cohen said Pecker told him, “I need to get this money back.”
Blanche tells the jury, ““That lunch did not happen. Cohen made it up.”
Blanche suggests that even if Pecker just forgot about the lunch, he argues there was no other proof that the lunch happened, like a credit card receipt.
Defense attorney Todd Blanche has turned to the 2016 recording Michael Cohen made of Trump which he said he taped to prove to David Pecker that he would be paid back. He argued that Karen McDougal was not discussed in the recording.
Blanche played a few seconds of the recording with Trump. Rhona Graff, Trump’s former longtime assistant, can be heard in the recording.
Blanche points out that no questions were asked of Graff related to the recording.
Trump’s defense attorney focused on Cohen telling Trump that it was “all the stuff” on the call.
Blanche references the concern about buying the documents that Pecker supposedly had of Trump.
“It was extremely important at the time to buy that box of stuff,” Blanche says. “There’s no discussion of Karen McDougal. They’re talking about buying the stuff. Listen the government claims on the transcript there’s a word President Trump says 150. Listen to the recording, see if you hear 150 or see if you have no idea what you’re hearing at all.”
“If it is really 150 said. Why is the next thing you hear from Cohen saying we’ll have to pay him something?” Blanche asks. “Bottom line is there is no doubt this recording discussed AMI and Mr. Pecker. There is a lot of doubt that it discussed Karen McDougal.”
Trump attorney Todd Blanche notes that Trump didn’t know what Michael Cohen was talking about when he talked about “financing” on the call.
“President Trump clearly has no idea what he’s talking about. This conversation, Mr. Cohen and President Trump are literally talking past each other about what’s going on,” Blanche argues.
Attorney Todd Blanche zeroes in on the end of the recording when Donald Trump says “check” before the audio cuts off.
Blanche suggests Trump was starting a new sentence. “You have no idea what was said afterward.”
“But it’s not what he told you,” Blanche says. “He told you that he got a phone call. He told you that he knew who the call from. Someone who worked at a bank. He said it was someone named Cathy Babble.”
“You don’t know about the integrity of this file and this recording,” Blanche says of Michael Cohen’s 2016 recording.
Trump attorney Todd Blanche reminds the jury that phone records show Michael Cohen did not pick up the phone call that he says interrupted the recording of his conversation with Trump.
“He lied to you when he said he answered that call,” Blanche says.
Blanche is now showing the AT&T phone records and the AT&T witness testimony that the phone call went to voicemail and was not answered.
Trump attorney Todd Blanche is now turning to Stormy Daniels, noting it’s a “story” that took place in 2006, 18 years ago.
“President Trump and Ms. Daniels have repeatedly denied it took place,” Blanche says.
Blanche argues that Michael Cohen “made a decision to pay that $130,000 to Ms. Daniels, he didn’t tell President Trump about it because he knew he could get credit for doing something to help President Trump at some later time.”
Blanche says “people were not happy with him on the campaign so he made this decision. The only person who suggests otherwise and tells you President Trump knew everything about this is Michael Cohen himself. That’s it. There’s no other proof of that.”
“There’s no way that you can find that President Trump knew about this payment at the time it was made without believing the words of Michael Cohen, period. And you cannot — you cannot — believe his words,” Blanche says.
Blanche says Daniels wanted the allegations about Trump pulled down from the website The Dirty in 2011 because then she couldn’t sell the story.
Trump attorney Todd Blanche again suggests that because Stormy Daniels’ story was already out there in 2011, it was not election interference and it did not cause panic in the Trump campaign.
“The public was aware of them, so again the idea that when Ms. Daniels surfaced in 2016 that it caused some sort of panic amongst everybody is not true, it’s just not true,” Blanche says.
we are at a 10ish minute break.