Marco Rubio presidential campaign discussion thread.

Hardly anyone was talking about Rubio’s attendance record until he started talking about it. He’s being called out for using his presidential run as an excuse to ignore Senate business, not for actually ignoring his senate business.

And really he’s being called out for being vocal about how much he hates his job.

Did you have a cite for what you claimed?

That was a rhetorical question, of course - you don’t.

Regards,
Shodan

Rubio campaign staff steals Wi-Fi from Pizza Place.

Staffer bought pizza and then continued to use the password. Owners have asked them to stop.

That’s what I call a low budget campaign.

Factually incorrect. A newspaper editorial attacked him for it, and it was brought up in one of the debates.

Also incorrect. He is being attacked for the number of votes he missed, while the same sources did not attack other Presidential candidates for missing the same percentage of votes, or more.

As usual, in the mainstream media and the SDMB, IOKIADDI. Nothing more than that.

Regards,
Shodan

I’m not concerned about his missing votes in the Senate. They all do it when running for president. I’m sure if some major important vote came up and his vote was needed, he’d hustle back to Washington to make the vote. But I don’t think he ran for the Senate with the intention of serving Florida in the Senate, he ran for the purpose of padding his resume for his presidential run. That he will not run for re-election no matter what happens to his current White House run adds some credence to it.

While Rubio is less insane than most of the GOP field, I’m not seeing what all the buzz is about. He’s still languishing well behind the batshit twins in the polls. His tax policy in indistinguishable from any other Republican. He’s been forced to swerve to the right on immigration, which essentially forfeits any benefit among Latinos that he would get by being of Cuban descent (which isn’t that big a benefit, if any, in the first place). He has joined the chorus telling people on minimum wage that they do not deserve a raise. His views on US-Cuba relations are several decades past their sell date. It seems to me that the only reason that he’s getting a buzz from the establishment is that their hand-picked man, Jeb, has been a total disaster as a candidate.

Given that the most visible person calling out Rubio was Donald Trump, I will give this assertion all the credit it deserves.

Remember: IOKIARDI.

Rubio jumps the shark:

As long as they take people like Rubio seriously, conservatives should really stop being so self-righteous in their supposed respect for the Constitution, and the Left’s lack thereof.

Rubio: “We are called to ignore” SCOTUS rulings that go against God

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) says religious believers are called to “ignore” laws that violate their faith.

“In essence, if we are ever ordered by a government authority to personally violate and sin — violate God’s law and sin — if we’re ordered to stop preaching the Gospel, if we’re ordered to perform a same-sex marriage as someone presiding over it, we are called to ignore that,” Rubio said in an interview with CBN on Tuesday.

“So when those two come into conflict, God’s rules always win,” he added.

Rubio said Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision creating a constitutional right to abortion, is open to revision.

“It’s current law; it’s not settled law,” he said. “No law is settled. Roe v. Wade is current law, but it doesn’t mean that we don’t continue to aspire to fix it, because we think it’s wrong.”

The Republican presidential candidate, who is rising in the polls, encouraged the faithful to work within the political process to change laws that violate their conscience.

“If you live in a society where the government creates an avenue and a way for you to peacefully change the law, then you’re called to participate in that process to try to change it,” he said.

Good plan! A clear path to a well-deserved defeat. You’re losing, you know that, right?

By his argument, we ought to shut down FoxNews.

Yeah, I saw this over at TPM, and the crowd there, I’m disappointed to say, got this one completely wrong.

Regardless of what dog whistles he was sending (and I’ll get back to those), he wasn’t talking about imposing God’s law on everyone where God’s law and secular law are in conflict. Rather, he was talking about civil disobedience on the part of Christians if the state were to ever order them to stop preaching the Gospel or officiate over gay marriages.

And he’s absolutely right about that, as long as he’s talking about Christians as private citizens, ordained ministers, and whatnot, and not as court clerks or what have you. (If they didn’t ask him to clarify that point during the interview, they should have.)

Now the dog whistle is that talk like this feeds the evangelical fantasy that they’re already being persecuted by everything from no prayer in schools to same-sex marriages to ‘happy holidays’ and Starbucks’ red cups, where saying ‘Merry Christmas’ back to that minimum-wage store clerk is, in their minds, an act of defiance to the secular Borg, and that any day now, the persecution will ramp up to the level that Rubio uses as examples here. Because the End Times are coming, and Christians will be horrifically persecuted, at least until they’re all Raptured up.

He’s certainly right about Roe v. Wade: one more conservative Justice, and it’ll be gone.

I’d never even heard of it until a moment ago when I read this. (Admittedly I didn’t follow news much 16 years ago.)

But if Hillary had killed someone? Can anyone imagine that fact wouldn’t be braying out of the blogs and cables every.single.day?

It isn’t much, but the media continually blow it out of proportion.

Rubio is a white Cuban, but because he’s nominally “Hispanic,” everyone seems to think that would give him some kind of “benefit” among “Latinos”–which is really just a reflection of how, even today, in 2015, just a name that ends in a vowel still gets thrown into a general pool of otherness by the media (and probably some misguided Republican leaders). As you indicate, the vast majority of “Latinos” in the U.S., if one can even make such a generalization, hardly identify with Marco Rubio, regardless of what he does on immigration.

Including the low spark of high-heeled boys…? :stuck_out_tongue:

Latino here, and I agree, but the nit here is that we also do notice what he has done with immigration.

He has disavowed his past support for the immigration reform bill, so we know already what a pisser he is.

Beatle boots, Beatle boots, Beatle boots!

Marco Rubio’s goal is eternity.

I was listening to NPR this morning and there was a Democratic pro-gun, pro-life Texan congressman of Mexican descent talking about how Mexicans are not likely to view Marco Rubio any more favorably than Mitt Romney (whose father was born in Mexico). Then a Mexican caller called in and really lit it up and pointed out that Cubans get special immigration privileges (they are entitled to all federal benefits (including things like food stamps) as soon as they touch US soil regardless of their immigration status) and then act like they are better than Mexicans because they get on their feet a generation or two ahead of their Mexican counterparts. The caller also had a few impolite things to say about Ted Cruz