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Yeah, like you would know.
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Yes, as many of us would. You spout shit like it is fact all of the time. It is boring it is old.
The same thing over and over. At least bring something new.
We get it! the republicans suck. ok cool!
Okay, stop picking on Luc. I know I do it, but that’s different. He’s right that Republicans suck. He just forgets to say that Democrats do too.
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Yes, as many of us would. You spout shit like it is fact all of the time. It is boring it is old.
The same thing over and over. At least bring something new.
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Some of my best drunken conversation bon mots have been [del]filched[/del] borrowed from the frozen Texan. People think I’m Og when I whip out my phrases. Don’t diss the luc.
You must have very intelligent, albeit crude, friends.
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Some of my best drunken conversation bon mots have been [del]filched[/del] borrowed from the frozen Texan. People think I’m Og when I whip out my phrases. Don’t diss the luc.
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Sorry Sam for showing what og looks like, scary!
I just get annoyed by his post, almost irrational.
I don’t know why, but I sort of feel like he’s my little brother. I can put him in a headlock and knuckle his hair, but nobody else gets to mess with him. He’s actually something of a treasure here. He can be annoying, but if he stopped doing what he does, the SDMB would stop being the SDMB.
Well, I got a suggestion. See, the upper left there? That’s my name. So you see that, you don’t read! See how easy! Your lips won’t get so tired, either.
[QUOTE=elucidator]
Oh, almost forgot: tell him never to spend a bunch of time with any woman he wouldn’t be proud to introduce to his Mom. Never does any good, but tell him anyway.
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Please. We were switching my son and daughter’s room this weekend (he had to come home from college abruptly last semester, but now he’s back at school, and we’re moving our daughter into his room since it’s slightly bigger and making her room a guest room) and my husband found condoms in his desk drawer.
That was bad enough, but my husband said, “Those weren’t the kind I bought him.”
:eek:
So, we quickly stuck them amongst other items in his college care package and I will forget I saw them.
(BTW, 'luci, I’m not wrong, you are. I’ll still buy you a beer at the Dopefest we both attend, because you make me laugh. Reluctantly, but I appreciate it.)
[QUOTE=Jolly Roger]
I’m not sure, but I believe that if an institution refuses recruiters access the government can withdraw federal funding. I’ve never seen it happen, but then, I’m extremely happy to NOT be a recruiter anymore.
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I hope you’re wrong about that. If a local entity (for example, the city of Berkeley) wanted to, they should be able to vote to disallow recruiters. It’s a measure I would certainly vote for in my area.
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
I hope you’re wrong about that. If a local entity (for example, the city of Berkeley) wanted to, they should be able to vote to disallow recruiters. It’s a measure I would certainly vote for in my area.
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Can they also disallow the IRS? The DEA? The EPA? The FCC?
How are Marines different from any other federal employees?
[QUOTE=elucidator]
By the by, is Code Pink mostly about the gay issue?
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Code Pink is pretty much all “The Iraq War is illegal”. It’s a woman’s group, and they wear pink. The name comes from that whole terror threat level thing. They yell a lot.
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Can they also disallow the IRS? The DEA? The EPA? The FCC?
How are Marines different from any other federal employees?
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The IRS, DEA, EPP and FCC don’t go out attempting to recruit in the way they do. Not at all the same thing.
Note I didn’t say ‘disallow the military’ but disallow the recruiters. Primarily I was thinking of the ones that go into schools and the like. If a community doesn’t wish to have their children recruited, I feel they should have that option.
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
I hope you’re wrong about that. If a local entity (for example, the city of Berkeley) wanted to, they should be able to vote to disallow recruiters. It’s a measure I would certainly vote for in my area.
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You’ll be disappointed, then. After speaking with my boss who is a retired marine who served as a recruiter for some time, an institution like a school or college can refuse access to recruters but the government can withdraw funds if they do. As I said I’ve never seen it done, but there was a time when the commander of my recruiting company said he would initiate that action on a local school. He didn’t, since the school allowed us in, and he was probably blowing off steam, but I think he would have pushed for it if they hadn’t.
I really can’t see how the city of Berkeley can legally disallow recruiters. But I’m not a lawyer. But if it is possible I can certainly understand the government refusing their funds. If you’re going to refuse to let federal government office in your city, then you shouldn’t benefit from the federal government either.
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
The IRS, DEA, EPP and FCC don’t go out attempting to recruit in the way they do. Not at all the same thing.
Note I didn’t say ‘disallow the military’ but disallow the recruiters. Primarily I was thinking of the ones that go into schools and the like. If a community doesn’t wish to have their children recruited, I feel they should have that option.
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HA! Every Federal agency you can name is all over college recruitment offices. See Lawrence Livermore at this UC Berkeley job fair. Just because the DOE doesn’t have ads on Super Bowl Sunday doesn’t mean that they aren’t reaching out to all of Berkeley’s science grads.
And let’s get this clear: Berkeley doesn’t really care about the principle of federalism. The city has long maintained that Berkeley is a nuclear-free zone, even though (a) the DOE doesn’t care and (b) UC Berkeley owns a nuclear reactor right smack in the middle of the city. So, the Feds and the state don’t really give two cents about Berkeley’s grandiose visions of being able to run matters of national (or international) policy within its city limits.
[QUOTE=Jolly Roger]
As I said I’ve never seen it done, but there was a time when the commander of my recruiting company said he would initiate that action on a local school. He didn’t, since the school allowed us in, and he was probably blowing off steam, but I think he would have pushed for it if they hadn’t.
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Our high school allowed military recruiters to set up a table in the cafeteria. They also allowed me to set up a table right next to the military’s table, at which I had anti-war propaganda, information from the National Friends Service Committee, and the like. The recruiters sneered at me that their job was protecting my freedom of expression; I sneered right back at them that no US military action in the past three decades had had anything to do with protecting my freedom of expression.
As I saw it, that’s exactly how things oughtta be run. The cure for crappy speech is more speech.
The one thing I really, really wish were true, though, is that military recruiters should be required to uphold strict codes of honesty when engaging in recruitment. Misleading recruits ought to be a felony.
Daniel
[QUOTE=Jolly Roger]
You’ll be disappointed, then. After speaking with my boss who is a retired marine who served as a recruiter for some time, an institution like a school or college can refuse access to recruters but the government can withdraw funds if they do.
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[QUOTE=Ravenman]
HA! Every Federal agency you can name is all over college recruitment offices. See Lawrence Livermore at this UC Berkeley job fair. Just because the DOE doesn’t have ads on Super Bowl Sunday doesn’t mean that they aren’t reaching out to all of Berkeley’s science grads.
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I’m sure some of them do. I can say that I’ve never seen an IRS recruiting office or heard of anyone having to work to get an FCC recruiter to stop calling them.
Honestly, I don’t really care about the Berkeley situation. I was simply stating that it is my opinion that local areas should be able to vote and not allow military recruiters.
Just for one more fun bit of information, the first NROTC unit ever was at UC Berkeley. That’s right - the first ROTC unit for the Navy and Marine Corps is still in operation just down the street at Callahan Hall (once a beautiful building, now just a set of trailers after an arsonist hit it).
[QUOTE=Antinor01]
The IRS, DEA, EPP and FCC don’t go out attempting to recruit in the way they do. Not at all the same thing.
Note I didn’t say ‘disallow the military’ but disallow the recruiters. Primarily I was thinking of the ones that go into schools and the like. If a community doesn’t wish to have their children recruited, I feel they should have that option.
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So you wouldn’t disallow the IRS, but you would disallow auditors. After all, people hate auditors, and nobody wants an IRS audit!
I fail to see why “recruiter” is the only federal job among thousands that local authorities are allowed to ban.
[QUOTE=Alessan]
So you wouldn’t disallow the IRS, but you would disallow auditors. After all, people hate auditors, and nobody wants an IRS audit!
I fail to see why “recruiter” is the only federal job among thousands that local authorities are allowed to ban.
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Auditors are enforcing the law under the auspices of the IRS, again a completely different thing.
I’m not trying to convert you to my opinion, simply expressing the one I have.