Good, you’ve apparently learned that ‘death spiral’ doesn’t apply at this point. Now let’s talk about free fall:
Key words being “unrestrained” and “continuing.” Since Hillary’s poll decline has halted, it is by definition no longer in a falling state - free or otherwise.
Can we please keep this thread to a discussion of O’Malley? There are other threads for Hillary and the debate last night.
As for that… O’Malley didn’t make a vivid-enough impression, although his closing was very good. He was smart to emphasize his experience actually running a city and a state, and getting stuff done. He still has my support.
Given that he’s at 1%, he probably will see a bump simply from people knowing about him. But the Google search numbers on Silver’s site weren’t encouraging .Webb actually got a lot more search activity. O’Malley and Webb will probably get a bump, but Webb’s might be bigger.
I figure the numbers in one week for national primary polling will look something like this:
Clinton, 40, Sanders 30, Biden 15, Webb 5, O’Malley 3.
Unbeknownst to me, apparently Webb already enjoys more than double the support of O’Malley, for what it’s worth.
Some free fall that is … 
It’s not a good bet that the polls a week from now will still include Biden, yanno. Or that Webb and Chafee will have emerged from rounding error levels.
O’Malley is likely to win the bronze, sure, and is a decent bet for running mate. But don’t get your hopes up any higher.
I don’t think O’Malley will be VP. He may very well be the frontrunner in 2020 or 2024 though. There are no big names on the horizon for the Democrats, so he’ll enter the next race better known than any of his likely opponents.
I seriously doubt there will be a Democrat challenger to the sitting Democrat President in 2020… 
If there is, she’ll just have him quietly assassinated, right?
You never know. Just ask Ford (1976), Carter (1980) or Bush (1992).
Yeah, but O’Malley won’t be that person. Which is why I said 2024, should the Democrat win in 2016. He’ll be 60 and will probably have spent the interim period raising his national profile as the most well known Democrat nationally who is under 70.
While I don’t think he’ll be VP, Clinton could certainly use him in her cabinet. He’s a pioneer in the area of data driven governance and could really be an asset. The last Clinton administration had a Reinventing Government initiative that Al Gore was in charge of. Perhaps make O’Malley a Government Effectiveness Czar.
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You also said 2020.
Because believe it or not, a Republican could win this year. Betting markets set the odds at about 40%. Nate Silver calls it 50-50.
Well maybe my comment was a too subtle way of saying I didn’t agree with that prediction.
O’Malley goes on The Daily Show and Trevor Noah gushes: http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/3wl9lc/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-october-19--2015---martin-o-malley-season-21-ep-21013
Here’s a largely-positive Rolling Stone article about O’Malley: Why Martin O’Malley Could Be the Future of the Democratic Party – Rolling Stone
Elendil’s Hair, would you at any point in your life have lived in Baltimore City during the time of Omalley’s reign, and if so which neighborhood?
It’s “Heir,” and no, I didn’t. With only one brief exception (John Glenn in the 1984 Democratic primaries) I’ve never had the chance to support a Presidential candidate from my home state.
A day in the life of a field organizer for the O’Malley campaign in Iowa: Iowastartingline.com/2015/11/24/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-martin-omalley-field-organizer/
I went to law school in Baltimore City, but that was long before O’Malley. It’s an odd patchwork – you can be walking through a nice neighborhood, cross the street, and suddenly you have to step over empty liquor bottles (but at least I never had to step over any empty crack vials) – and then walk a little further and you’re in a nice neighborhood again, and so on. But, it wasn’t so bad, I never got mugged and never heard of a classmate getting mugged.
O’Malley is warmly received by Congressional Dems, but still badly lags in endorsements: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/261662-omalley-huddles-with-house-dems
It’s still like that, and it doesn’t seem to matter who the mayor is.