Mass murder on the high seas (Venezuelan "drug boat")

What you should do is copy my post, but substitute “Obama” for “trump”.

Yes, Trump ordered more drone strikes in his first 2 years than Obama did in his entire 8 years of office. And we only know how many drone strikes he did those two years, because he stopped reporting them afterward. Obama created the policy of transparency to make those numbers public during his administration, and Trump ended that policy, probably because it was making him look terrible. (It’s kind of funny that he cared back then, now I don’t think he’d give a shit.)

That is a failed “gotcha” attempt from an obvious trock.

What makes the drone strikes (which are also problematic for a number of reasons, not least of which because of civilian deaths) different from these boat attacks, is that presumably the drones were used on military targets. These aren’t military targets. These are fishing boats accused of having drugs in them.

Yeah, the US military does, from time to time, kill people. That’s rather part of the job description of a military, and nobody but hardcore pacifists objects to that fact in itself. What’s relevant is whom they’re killing. Were there any particular Obama drone strikes that you considered especially objectionable?

The boats could be stopped, but trump said that they’re going to be killed, “like, dead”, so Kegbreath is just following orders. His name can be added to the hypothetical warrant.

The French have a saying “ the only man who looks under a bed is one who has hidden under a bed” so I’ll be a cunt like you and assume you’re the one with banned accounts yet returns to the imaginary fray as if there is any value or consequence here. Well I’ll do that for as long as it takes me to finish typing. There, done. Enjoy your imaginary whatever the hell, it is here, probably better that people like you are in here instead of out in the real world.

I know it’s the Pit but it is time to stop using vile, misogynistic slurs like cunt.

We don’t allow such blatant use of the “n” word. The “c” word is as much a hateful slur to me as a woman.

Also posted in the other thread.

A lengthy section at the end of the memo sets out a legal defense, stating that any administration official or troops charged over such killings would have “battlefield immunity” because of the alleged state of armed conflict, The Times reports.

For a movement that abhors vaccines, MAGA sure likes to throw around the word “immunity”.

I always thought they had to be given an opportunity to surrender. It’s fucking murder.

But if they surrender its all sorts of messy, you have to figure out what to do with them, who has jurisdiction, you have to have a trial and evidence, and who knows it may come out that they aren’t actually drug smugglers. Much cleaner just to send them and any evidence down to Davy Jones. No fuss no muss.

Seriously though you can tell this isn’t really about stopping drugs. If it was they would want to take them prisoner so you can get information about the drug cartel’s operation. But actual effective law enforcement is contrary to the goal of keeping the drug war going so that you can carry on painting South American immigrants as violetn criminals.

Or, it could be indeed about stopping drugs, but just by intimidation with some murder of innocents. For sure some cartel smugglers are going to be afraid to ship narcotics into America, and in the eyes of the Trump administration, the death of a few dozen or hundred innocent people is just welp, too bad, the price to be paid.

el donald seems to think that provoking a foreign war will give him an excuse to stay in office past 2028. The tactic has worked in other places.

If it was about stopping drugs it wouldn’t be Venezuela and boats that couldn’t reach the U.S. without refueling half a dozen times.

Also, if it was about stopping drugs, Donald wouldn’t have pardoned the former President of Honduras (convicted on drug-trafficking charges).

Pete Hegseth is trying to persuade the children that extrajudicial killing is Cool, Man:

That would be darkly hilarious if anybody other than Hegseth had come up with it.

Although it would not surprise me at all if someone else did come up with it and Hegseth is just reposting it without attribution.

Either way, Hegseth is an asshole.

I 100% guarantee that is the case. There is no way he came up with that himself.

I’m having trouble finding where it originally came from though.

Here is an article about it that had a particular part I liked though.

In response, X users posted AI-generated Franklin covers of their own, with titles like Franklin Goes to The Hague , Franklin On Trial at the ICC , and Franklin Goes to Jail.

You know, I’m starting to think you’re not a Super Hero at all!

I am just trying to wrap my head around this. Let’s give the Administration all the benefit of the doubt. Let’s say they had proof that these were drug boats and everyone on board was a criminal. Let’s say we are at war with the drug dealers. Let’s even say they had a valid reason for targeting the boats. How can you justify a second strike on survivors clinging to the wreckage? There is no “fog of war” here. There is no justification for summarily executing criminals without due process. There is no justification for executing people whose crimes do not merit the death penalty. It’s like Hegsdeth is playing a game where the goal is to completely destroy the enemy. But this is not a game. These are real people who have not committed capital crimes according to the Administration. This is straight up murder. Why are the generals not refusing? Are their cushy jobs worth more than any integrity or common decency? They are being thrown under the bus regardless but what kind of country allows this?

Easily enough, from a right wing viewpoint. They are criminals, which means they “deserve” death. They are brown, which means they “deserve” death. And they aren’t rich and American, which means their lives are worth nothing to begin with.

Just like killing so many rats to people like the Republicans, except they’d probably feel more moral qualms about killing rats.

Wouldn’t it be something if Hegseth (or any other fucker in that chain of command) were hanged in the Hague, all just to change the catch of the day on the menu of some seafood restaurant in Trinidad?