Millions of similar operations, albeit on different animals, occur in similar enviroments. I am not familiar with ear cropping. I do know that tails are docked without anesthesia when dogs are young pups though. And not in vet offices either. The fact that he, supposedly, botched the job according to picture evidence is more relevant to the “wrongness” of cropping this animal’s ears IMO.
And FWIW, one can be heavily influenced by animal rights without going over to the extreme of HSUS, PETA, or ALF. It’s like all the people who are upset when something “bad” happens to a cute animal but not an ugly one.
I think that it has became the same thing. If this guy had neglected to feed or water his pup, I’d be incensed. I wouldn’t think that it worse or even any where remotely close to the multitude of crimes and cases of neglect towards human beings. But I would certainly think that it was seriously fucked up. Him fucking up a common procedure with no malice, even though it sucks for the dog, doesn’t really piss me off too much.
Someone cut my cat’s ears off, apparently going for some chic look. If I could find that person and… actually I don’t know what I would do. Probably cry, because I am a weenie.
Unregistered Bull
Wow - nine postings so far - I guess you want your views to be duly noted.
As far as the procedures done on farm animals, at least those are done for a logical purpose (even if sometimes that purpose favors humans more than animals).
What the Hell is the purpose here? Did he expect burglars to think twice before they robbed his house?
“Gee I was thinking of breaking into that guy’s house, even though I saw a Pit Bull in his yard. But when I saw the dog had no ears, I knew the dog would really be trouble.” :rolleyes:
You are aware that neglecting to feed and water a pet is a common procedure outside the animal rights mindset?
I’m not clearly understanding your distinction where cutting off parts of an animal without anesthesia is acceptable because it’s commonly done to animals by people who don’t really care a lot, but not feeding the anmimal is UNacceptable even though it too is commonly done by people who don’t really care a lot.
If he fucked it up, he did not know what he was doing. This is animal cruelty (falls under welfare, not rights. They dont want to let him vote, just to live without undue suffering). It wasn’t even ear cropping. Just… what the fuck? Someone mentioned dog fighting earlier, and that makes a lot of sense now, because I cannot think of a single aesthetic reason for fully removing the ears. Grrrr. :mad:
I do wonder how the police got there in the first place. Were they called? Because it says they saw the ears in the backyard, but how did they get in the backyard.
Someone who would do this to a puppy probably has no problem firing a few bullets into a human being-for “dissin’” him, for example. Incipient psychopath? probably. Of course, this dod was probably going to be used to fight, so the owner was probably not shy about brutalizing it. Real fine specimen of humanity there!
The fact that he might think that the “appropriate look” for this dog is having its ears hacked off does not, in any way, negate the cruelty involved in the act. If i genuinely thought that my cat would look better with my initials carved into its side, would that make it acceptable for me to take out a knife and start hacking away?
Or what if i thought that you would look better with the word “moron” branded on your forehead (a redundant exercise, i acknowledge)? Would that justify me throwing the iron in the fire and tying you down?
Of course, you’ll probably answer that you are a human, and that we humans are different from animals, and deserve more consideration. It’s certainly true that humans are different from animals, and in my opinion one of the things that makes us different is our capacity for reason and compassion. And, as the dominant species on this planet, we have a responsibilty to exercise our reason and compassion by not engaging in the needless torture of lesser creatures. If we don’t do that, then our claim to be more highy evolved than them is pretty hollow.
It was unclear at that point whether the ears were removed, or if it was a botched ear cropping of some sort. If it was the latter, it was a valid comment, albeit a controversial one as there are various arguments for and against cropping. The “pro” side is mostly dog showmen that maintain that that is how the dog should look, even if they can’t breed it to actually look like that.
Unregistered Bull, we all know you don’t like animals. So why do you have to come into every thread about animal cruelty and inform us that we’re all making too big of a deal of it?
You may not like it, but in our society, animals deserve to be treated humanely. That means, if one takes on an animal as a pet, one has the duty to feed it, give it water, and take care of it. Cutting off its ears-NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON-in the manner done by this asshole was WRONG.
(And why couldn’t you have kept your points confined to ONE post, rather than five posts in a freaking row?)
There were foot-long lamb tails all over the dirt floor of the barn we were doing it in. There were flies everywhere and the lamb had a bit of its own feces on itself (as animals tend to do). And this was for an approved University class, not some hick experimenting. That’s how its done in the field every day.>> Hawksgirl
Just out of curiousity, why wouldn’t they band the lambs tails when they were younger instead of cutting them off? I keep sheep and band them at about 1-2 weeks and its infinitely cleaner and less stressful than cutting. Just curious as to what the reason was (on the university’s side) for not banding them…
