Trump has again repeated the allegation that millions of illegal alien votes cost him the popular vote.
If our elections include many millions of illegal votes, that’s a serious problem. Nobody should stand for having anywhere from 2 percent to, geez, who knows, 10 percent of the votes in a presidential election being illegally cast. That goes to the core of the integrity of our elections.
So why hasn’t President Trump called for a massive FBI investigation to get to the bottom of this? We need to get to the bottom of where these WMDs are - I mean, where these illegal voters are, if these votes are at risk of being transferred to terrorists, if these votes are being delivered by drones flying over our major cities, and so on. We have to connect the dots before a smoking ballot becomes a mushroom cloud.
So why is President Trump just doing nothing about this threat, except tweeting? The time for politician talk is over, the time for action is now.
Its too bad all the voter fraud happened in California, too. Those darn illegals risking committing a felony and deportation to insure that Clinton wins a blue state!
Right. Nobody spouting it except, perhaps, Trump, really believes it’s an issue. It’s a fig leaf of cover to suppress voter turnout among populations that tend to vote Democrat.
Now, Trump is such a narcissist that he might actual believe it, but he’s not interested in finding out. Easier to just claim it’s true than risk being proven wrong. What’s the upside for him? His supporters will just take his word on faith.
If only! About 25% of Democrats, a third of indepedents, and a whopping 60% of Republicans think that “meaningful” numbers of illegal immigrants are voting in our elections.
That means that for the Trump supporters on this board, for example, it is likely a better than a coin flip chance that they agree with the President on this issue. Perhaps they think that the President’s assertions constitute “alternative facts,” but that really isn’t the issue.
If our elections are being tampered with, surely somebody needs to get to the bottom of it, right? So why is President Trump sitting on his hands and not investigating a rigged election system, now that he’s in charge? I’ve suggested the FBI should do it, but maybe we need a 9/11-type of bipartisan independent commission to figure out why we have so many millions of illegal ballots cast in this country, and what we ought to do to stop it.
Probably the same reason he isn’t investigating Hillary like he promised: because it was only politically expedient to make both claims, while it is not politically expedient to follow through with them. He played the rhetoric game better than anyone right into the White House.
Because it’s a LIE. You don’t tell a huge lie and then do everything you can to expose it for the lie that it is. Trump, of all people, knows that it’s better to tell a lie and foment doubt than to investigate the lie and remove all doubt.
I meant the people in power that push that narrative. 60% of Republicans think that Jesus founded America, so that wouldn’t surprise me. Actually seems kinda low, if still scary.
Voter fraud is incredibly rare. In my state, over the past 38 years, only two people have ever committed it, and neither one was able to swing the election.
I don’t think Trump would lie about this. Sean Spicer just said the other day that the Administration’s hope is that they be truthful. That’s an inspiring claim, which calls to mind George Washington’s famous statement about the cherry tree: “If I tell a lie, I didn’t really mean to. I hope you can just look in my heart and see what I really should have said.”
Are you certain of that? There’s a difference between conviction rates and rates of incident of crimes. Did you mean that only two people have been convicted of voter fraud over the last 38 years?
So if you have questions in your mind about the integrity of our elections, you surely agree that the President’s claims of massive voter fraud are a sufficient basis for a big league investigation, correct?
Dozens of people break into my house and move things around every single day. I mean, I have no evidence that it happens, but there’s a difference between it happening and there being evidence of it happening.
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“In 38 years of same-day voter registration, there have only been two cases of voter fraud, and those individuals were prosecuted and convicted,” Bellows says. “So when you look at the facts, you’re talking not about one voter whose vote might be negated, you’re talking about tens of thousands of Mainers who would be denied their right to vote on Election Day.”
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It’s both. Only two individuals committed voter fraud, and both were convicted. There are no unsolved cases of it.
Do you believe, for example, that every incident of the act of jaywalking that happens in your state results in a conviction? Every incident of rape? Every incident of assault?
Well, how about you, since you ask questions, how about you? Do you believe it, do you believe that Trump’s voting deficit was the results of…what was it now, three million to five million?..illegal votes? Can you step down from your preferred position as interrogator, and take a place on the witness stand?